It looks like Allen Edmonds (I think it's Allen Edmonds) is dumping inventory on Ebay. The prices with shipping and tax are comparable to seconds prices during a sale. I think they are actually selling first quality shoes. If not, you should be able to use Ebay's policy to get a full refund (including shipping), since sellers should list all defects in the listing. Lots of styles available, but not all sizes are available. The deal on the suede bucks (Boone) are pretty good, but I got a better deal on chili McGregors a few months back.