I was shopping at Men's Warehouse, looking for some pants, when I noticed their display showing custom made suits. The salesman said they make "made to measure" suits for much less that does a traditional "bespoke" tailor elsewhere. I'll be in the market for such a suit in the near future, so I decided to do some researh. I wanted to know just what this custom made suit at Men's Warehouse was all about. I found the following information on the Internet using Google. The following are excerpts from what I found:

I learned that these suits will have the Joseph Abboud label. Abboud is a men's clothing designer and a good one. However, he does not personally make the suits, and he is not a tailor. The Men's Warehouse "custom" suits are made in a clothing factory.

I know, this fact doesn't mean those suits are no good. They cost less than a suit made by hand by a tailor from scratch for a reason. The quality can still be very good.

I found some background about Joseph Abboud, a real person, and how that name came to Men's warehouse. According to information on the Internet:

Abboud was born in Boston Massachusetts to a working class family. His mother was a seamstress. He graduated from the University of Massachusetts-Boston in 1972.

Abboud joined Ralph Lauren in 1981, eventually becoming associate director of menswear design. He launched his own label in 1986.
Abboud sold his trademarks and name to JA Apparel for $65 million in 2000. That company was acquired by private-equity firm J.W. Childs Associates for $73 million in 2004, and Abboud left JA Apparel in 2005.

The Abboud company under J.W. Childs Associates was primarily a wholesale business manufacturing suits, and other garments, in Massachusetts with a small licensing business on the side. Joseph Abboud clothing also is sold in department and specialty stores, including Nordstrom, Inc., and Bloomingdale’s Inc..

Abboud launched a new line called Jaz in 2007. He also created the Black Brown 1826 line for the Lord & Taylor department store in 2008. The year 2008 also marked the opening of Abboud's first stores in China.

In 2010, Abboud became the chief creative officer of HMX, owner of the Hart Schaffner Marx and Hickey Freeman brands. HMX made an offer to buy JA Apparel for $90 million in 2011.

In December 2012, Abboud became Chief Creative Director of Men's Wearhouse. Joseph Abboud had been selling product under his label in Men’s Warehouse for a number of years before this event.

In mid 2013, Men's Warehouse announced that it had agreed to acquire the parent company of Joseph Abboud from private equity firm J.W. Childs Associates for $97.5 million. The acquisition also includes JA Holding’s U.S. tailored clothing factory that employs 450 workers.

That New Bedford, MA factory produces both ready to wear and custom suits (and other garments) under the Joseph Abboud label. Ready to wear Abboud label suits are ticketed at $495. Made to measure suits will have price points of $595 and $695, depending on the fabric, according to information on the Internet.

All of the fabrics are Italian make, and all the swatches are identified by Super number (thread counts of 110-150).
The suits are half-canvassed. The canvassing is the standard cotton/wool/horsehair blend. Both the custom and ready to wear products are half-canvassed, according to information on the Internet.

I found no information on exactly how these "custom" suits are actually made. Since they are made in a factory employing hunderes of people, I doubt they are made from scratch in the traditional way that a tailor makes them.

So, how do I think these suits are made? I don't know for sure, but I suspose the factory makes these suits in the same manner as those on-line "made to measure" Chinese and other vendors make suits. When they receive a customer's measurements, they send the figures to the factory floor and they make the suit to match the measurements.

I would think they employ the same suit making techniques as those used to make ready to wear suits, though they likely reserve a separate area on the factory floor for the custom work.

There are no fittings, no adjustments, no nothing to ensure a proper fit before the customer actually tries-on the suit for the first time. Even so, I understand that some adjustments can be made after the fact. Men's Warehouse guarantees a proper fit or they'll fix it for free, according to the salesman at Men's Warehouse.

As such, these suits don't technically qualify as custom (bespoke made) suits. I would rather call them "made to measure" garments. Hey, they cost about half the price of suits made from scratch by a traditional tailor. I think I should have one of these.

What do you all think about the Men's Warehouse line of custom (made to measure) suits. Is this a good deal? As for me, I kind of like the idea.

Fritz