rain coat suggestions

[llie19]

i have been looking for a rain coat/mac jacket, basically a thin long jacket with water repellent fabric and a fold-over collar. it's similar to a trench, but with minimalist design, so no epaulet or belt. a few examples

http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/o...2839/12839.jsp

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/burberry...ts+%26+Jackets

http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/jack-spa...=&resultback=0

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse...?pid=905623002

i ran into this one at a lands end store

http://www.landsend.com/pp/mens-stor...217842_59.html

relatively affordable and looks decent on (product photo does not do full justice). very light fabric, love the navy color, perfect length. but true to lands end sizing, even a size small is somewhat boxy on me. i am 6', about 165lb. the armhole is quite roomy, and waist can be tapered a little more. i tried this on with a sweater inside first, then put on a blazer in between, and still can zip up without squeezing myself. my questions is how fit should such a coat be? is it supposed to fit pretty close to body contour like a suit jacket? this one definitely does not fit as snug as my tailored suit.

also please feel free to suggest other options of such type. thanks a lot.

[s_crane]

I know you said not a trench but if your willing to spend that kind of money a burberry trench really is a timeless great coat that will lat forever. I have my grandfathers and while it is much longer than the in style and a little big its a trench, they have always been a boxier fit and although im normally all about fit im willing to let it slide on that.

[s_crane]

this may be what you want?
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/z-zegna-...=&resultback=0

[llie19]

thanks crane. the one you gave looks very nice, maybe a little too long, but i am not ready yet to spend a lot on a thin coat that's more fashion than function. burberry has single breasted beltless "trenches" like the ones i linked to, fit may be better than lower-tier brands, but just way too pricey for me.

reading some of the reviews, i am starting to think that the fit also depends on what you wear inside. someone said he bought two sizes, the smaller one for warm days worn with a shirt, one size up for wearing suit inside. does this make sense?

[hasenkopfe]

http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do...&pid=351246002

[hasenkopfe]

Also - if you play the ebay game...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BANANA-REPUB...item3f20eb2a24

[llie19]

just saw BR came out with this

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse...&pid=236082002

[llie19]

thanks. i somehow missed your posts earlier. this one has color too close to my skin, i'd like some contrast. i tried the navy mac with a hood in a gap store, fabric felt too stiff.

http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do...&pid=351246002

[llie19]

BR also has this. it's been out for only 2 weeks, and is almost out of stock now.
http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse...&pid=236084002

tried it in store, not too bad, fabric feels a little stiff, but looks fine. wonder why it costs more than the trench with a detachable lining.

[Longshanks]

reading some of the reviews, i am starting to think that the fit also depends on what you wear inside. someone said he bought two sizes, the smaller one for warm days worn with a shirt, one size up for wearing suit inside. does this make sense?

It seems reasonable that what you wear underneath would affect the fit to a certain degree, but, I'd say, it's more about the size you would need to fit whatever layers you want to fit underneath, than about how much a suit vs. a t-shirt will alter the silhouette.

At the same time, I'd buy a trench/topcoat/etc. for the explicit purpose of wearing it over a suit/other jacket. If it's then too boxy for casual wear, I'd still rock it, but if it bothered you, and you have the money, I wouldn't find it completely crazy to have two of the same in different sizes, though I would still prefer to have a variety of styles over a variety of sizes.