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    #16


    Its a good suggestion for when the boards are upgraded (which I believe is currently in the works!).


    I think we can both agree that a profile option for this would be great!

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      #17


      I heard about the upgrades. Can't wait till I can subscribe to threads for email notification (and dare I hope for Tapatalk integration!) Anyway, the profile feature would certainly be awesome!

      My measurements, for context--> Body Type: Slim/Skinny |​ Weight: 175 lbs | Height: 6'1" | Neck: 16” | Chest: 40” | Waist: 33.5” | Shoulder: 18.75” | Sleeve: 35.5” | Bicep: 12.75” | Wrist: 6.75”

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        #18


        I agree that the examples you gave are pretty useless exchanges that we see repeated over and over. But two identical people might select different sizes because they have differing views of what a good fit is.


        Beyond that, people say ridiculous things all the time. Recently someone posted that the 2012 Levi 514 jeans are practically bootcuts. That's outrageous. But people actually hold those perceptions. I'm not saying things should be done one way or another, just that I've learned to view posts through a lens that would still exist if detailed body measurements were included.

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          #19


          As something that we all agree to do in order to help each other, I pretty much agree with you Diversification.


          Your wording of the issue was maybe slightly "strong" but no blood no foul... I hope this idea gets a spot in some sort of profile page when these boards get upgraded. I would do it to help others and hope for the same in return.


          High five for a good idea

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            #20


            Pull your skirt down, lighten up...it's not that serious

            "One man's style must not be the rule of another's." - Jane Austen
            #StayDapper

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              #21


              I'm a fan of our current system of "Oh hey that fits you well/poorly. Could you give me more details about your size/measurements so I can compare?" And I definitely agree with NC about taking things w/ a grain of salt or consider that people can be coming from different perspectives.


              For example - when I started wearing Alpha Khakis I thought they were absurdly trim fitting, but now when I wear a lot of other pants they just seem too big. If I were to say that my legs were swimming in LE Tailored Year 'rounders, I wouldn't mind being asked what I normally wear or something similar. Somebody mentioned the utility of brand fit comparisons, and I agree that I've found those to be most useful (see any of the many threads on CT vs BB ESF vs NM vs TML etc...) for purchases because then it's more likely to have a point of comparison. Individual measurements and 'fits well' are equally vulnerable to preference biases, but you cannot really deny that one shirt's 15.5/34 is slimmer than another's.

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                #22


                @nicholascrawford Indeed people do make ridiculous comments much like the one you pointed out about the 514s. Lets explore that though. What if that person had their middle thigh, calf and ankle measurements somewhere? It would be easy enough to ask "how much slack do you have at each measurement point?" All the poster would need to do would be pinch the fabric and bam, you have a rough idea why he may have said something like that. Chances are, he has large thighs and comparatively skinny calves and ankles.


                @ThomasBM Thanks


                @SDot http://i.imgur.com/mueD9.gif


                @LosRockets The current system you're in favor of encourages posts that are needlessly repetitive. If a standardized measurement system were put in place (not mandatory, but encouraged) it would eliminate the need for many of the "could you give me details about your size/measurements" posts. This would make threads less cluttered which is always a good thing.


                As I pointed out in my reply to NC above, perception of fit could much more easily be eliminated as a variable if we were to implement a measurements system that became widely accepted. For instance, my profile would say that my chest is 42" and my waist is 35". I would be able to pinch the CT Tailored fit shirt I'm wearing and tell you that on a 16.5 / 36 there's about 6 to 7 inches of slack at the waist and chest.

                My measurements, for context--> Body Type: Slim/Skinny |​ Weight: 175 lbs | Height: 6'1" | Neck: 16” | Chest: 40” | Waist: 33.5” | Shoulder: 18.75” | Sleeve: 35.5” | Bicep: 12.75” | Wrist: 6.75”

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                  #23


                  Like NC has pointed out, given the disparate ideas of what two different people may mean by "fit" and the extent to which all of this is generally guided by taste, I don't think an exhaustive list of measurements would be helpful. They go to this degree often at SF, but it's always between people like Foo and Manton who are already well into the area of diminishing returns and have already learned 99% of what there is to know about this field. The exhaustive minutiae is not for Dappered, we appeal to a different crowd: the "I don't take this THAT seriously but still want to look good at an affordable price" bunch.

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                    #24


                    JUst to give my 2 cents here, while i understand the point the OP is making, it becomes an over regulated area, where most guys are just trying to start out and posts a pick of does this fit well?; anyone who has a few years of dressing well under their belt can assess someone rather quickly without knowing build height or any other thing...if i look at a jack on someone i can tell whether or not it will need to be taken in sized down etc...lets not make it about parameters and cause the newer guys to feel like there is too much to do just to get a quick response.

                    "The key to Success is the Quality of Execution"
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                      #25


                      @MaxMan, word. If you want to give us the measurements, they can help people that are more experienced in the world of fit make a more accurate assessment. However, it is not always necessary.

                      "You don't need money to dress better than you do" - Salvatore Romano

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                        #26


                        @Kenneth

                        I get that you want this place to give off a more laid back vibe than somewhere like SF and I don't disagree with that. SF can be an intimidating place and that's not a good thing. However, when profiles become available, encouraging folks to list their measurements can only help. Additionally, knowing your measurements isn't "minutiae", it's one of the first things someone learning about style and trying to up their game needs to figure out. Others have pointed out that until the forum is updated and we have profiles, the idea of listing measurements in every fit-related post is excessive and unrealistic: they're right. What I'm envisioning is sticky describing how to be the best dappered member you can be. In that sticky would be a section ENCOURAGING (not mandating) members to list their measurements in their profile and explaining that they should really measure themselves anyway. Maybe include a few details about how it's helpful. From here, I'll refer you to my previous post instead of restating.


                        @MaxMan & greg_s

                        It kinda sounds like you guys may have only read the OP and then posted (can't blame you, it's a long thread). The ideas I have put forth in the OP have evolved though and you are both commenting on points I've already addressed multiple times. If you get a chance (and have the desire) I encourage you to read through the entire thread.

                        My measurements, for context--> Body Type: Slim/Skinny |​ Weight: 175 lbs | Height: 6'1" | Neck: 16” | Chest: 40” | Waist: 33.5” | Shoulder: 18.75” | Sleeve: 35.5” | Bicep: 12.75” | Wrist: 6.75”

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                          #27


                          @diversification, I encourage you to make fewer assumptions. Forgive my tone, but I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I have read the thread and deemed the discussion inane. Thus, I agreed with maxman's concise response.

                          "You don't need money to dress better than you do" - Salvatore Romano

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                            #28


                            @greg_s

                            It's one thing to disagree with my suggestions, but it's another entirely to call them, and the ensuing discussion inane. Your tone and wording is forgiven because I assume you were moved by your preexisting grumpiness. Had you not simply had a case of the grumpies, you would have been sending a message to members that the moderators do not value their input concerning possible ways to improve this site. I honestly don't think that's the message you intended to send and I hope your day improves as it goes.


                            Anyway, the reason I assumed you had only read the OP was that I had already addressed a post very similar to MaxMan's. ThomasBM's first post and my first response to him covered the focus on the "please critique my fit" threads/posts.

                            My measurements, for context--> Body Type: Slim/Skinny |​ Weight: 175 lbs | Height: 6'1" | Neck: 16” | Chest: 40” | Waist: 33.5” | Shoulder: 18.75” | Sleeve: 35.5” | Bicep: 12.75” | Wrist: 6.75”

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                              #29


                              @diversification http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/obnoxious.gif


                              Let people post what they want. If someone wants clarification, they'll ask.

                              "One man's style must not be the rule of another's." - Jane Austen
                              #StayDapper

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                                #30


                                That would be handy, because I ALMOST ordered some charles tyrwhitt black label shirts with everyone saying how slim they are, but upon looking at the chart I would require some massive tailoring around the waist. 15.5 extra slim for example is 43 chest and 38 waist...may as well call it box cut


                                I was hoping that the forum would progress into a more organized structure with sub categories eg. Shirts-->Shirt Fitting-->Brand X-->Dress Shirts and then people can put different sizes etc

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