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  • GRussell
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    @JT10000 I did specify that I knew "next to nothing" earlier. I don't have issues with matching casual clothes, but when you start adding more layers it gets a little iffy. Judging by the community reaction to the tie, a little knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge at all.

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  • JT10000
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    I'm impressed that you know how to dress for your complexion but you think an absurd tie is acceptable.

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  • GRussell
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    @JT10000 I'm a redhead. Wearing greyscale makes me look even more pale than I already am.

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  • JT10000
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    @GRussell wrote "But isn't black & white & gray kind of monochromatic? I mean, no color anywhere?"


    You've got to walk before you can run.

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  • MagM
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    Shepherd's check is nearly the same save the twill weave running through it, making it a bit busier.

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  • GRussell
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    @Fred G. Unn The glen plaid pattern I like. But isn't black & white & gray kind of monochromatic? I mean, no color anywhere?


    Also, what's the difference between shepherd's check and gingham?

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  • Fred G. Unn
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    If want to impress your buddy who "tends to dress well" you can't go wrong with your charcoal suit, black shoes, white shirt, white linen pocket square and a tie such as one of these:

    http://www.kentwang.com/ties/glen-plaid.html

    http://www.kentwang.com/ties/shepherds-check.html


    Since those 2 ties are 6-folds they are a bit pricey, but just find another version of that style at a place such as the Tie Bar. I have a great Drake's shepherd's check I got at NM Last Call for $36 that I dig out for weddings so other versions can definitely be found cheaper. If you wear that you'll likely be better dressed than anyone else there that's not in the wedding party.

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  • GRussell
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    @(pretty much everybody) ...and now the tie is gone.


    @PublicName That tie's got a bit much going on for me. It's the tangerine, I think. White shirt I have.

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  • PublicName
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    I suggested burning as to guarantee that no human being ever wear it again. Throwing it away leaves too much to chance.


    Buy a white shirt and get a white pocket square from tiebar and a tie with a pattern.


    Personally if youre into the whole green thing i like this: http://www.thetiebar.com/order_page.asp?pn=33805&orderPageReturn=%2Fcategor yPages%2FAll_Ties.asp&pg=0&categoryIds=31,26,14&op tionValueIds=


    You'll spend about 50$ total and will look $$$$$

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  • tdig
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    Agree with most of the posters. That ties gotta go.

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  • Fred G. Unn
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    +1 to everything JT said above ^^^


    There's another good thread on StyleForum called the "good taste thread" which I've found very useful too: http://www.styleforum.net/t/309586/w...e-thread/0_100

    Manton, the guy that started that thread, is the author of "The Suit" which is a great book about men's style: http://www.amazon.com/The-Suit-Machiavellian-Approach-Style/dp/0060891866/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349540910&sr=8-1&keywords=the+suit


    There are a bunch of SF heavyweights both posting pics and commenting on others in that thread so I feel like I've learned a lot from it anyway.

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  • JT10000
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    The problem with that tie is mainly the pattern, though the colors may be hard to pull off.


    You need to start looking at what other people are wearing that looks good and is conservative (plain colors and minimal patterns) and try to copy those looks. Then you can get into more flamboyant outfits.


    There is a thread here called Looks You Really Like. Start there. Or look at the Put This On blog. Or Style Forum (lurking). Both PTO and Style Forum has guides to business dress and (I think) wedding dress. And look at what the friend you say dresses well wears and try to understand why it looks good.

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  • GRussell
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    I know next to nothing about suits and ties. I don't wear them for my job and haven't worn one for anything since 2005. I wear a white coat and horrible checked pants for 12+ hours a day while I play with knives and fire. In the realm of food I'm well-versed; in the realm of men's fashion I'm sort of an idiot.


    An old friend and roommate of mine is getting married. This comes as a complete surprise to me, him, and every other friend he has. He tends to dress well, and I would like very much not to embarrass myself with my outfit. So: help me out here?


    @Fred G. Unn/PublicName: Is it the pattern that makes you suggest fire, or the color?

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  • PublicName
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    Seriously though. Burn that tie. It should be illegal to look at.


    Go to thetiebar.com Shipping is rather fast even on regular shipping and for a pocket square and tie you'll spend about 25$.

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  • Fred G. Unn
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    No offense, but you should just burn that tie. I would definitely not consider wearing that to a wedding.


    If there are no decent shops around you, check out the Tie Bar. They have a wide range of ties in traditional patterns and they are all $15! Here's a link searching for traditional (it is a wedding) and selecting charcoal for the suit color:

    http://www.thetiebar.com/categoryPag...ptionValueIds=

    A few are fugly but almost all would be more appropriate for a wedding than the one in your pic.


    The Knottery is another good choice for inexpensive (sub $40) ties:

    http://theknottery.com/ties.html?limit=24


    If you're new to pocket squares, the first one you should buy is a white linen square. The Tie Bar has one for $10:

    http://www.thetiebar.com/tie-bar-pro...ptionValueIds=

    It would certainly be appropriate for a wedding.


    IMO, the next square in terms of usefulness would be some sort of ancient madder like this:

    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/i...entPage=family

    That one is expensive, but NWT Robert Talbott pocket squares are available all the time on eBay for $25. I didn't see a good ancient madder one listed right now though, but new ones are listed daily.


    If you're not used to the look of pocket squares, buy some cheap white hankies and put them in the breast pocket of every sport coat and suit jacket in your closet. It will help you get used to the look and after a while a breast pocket will just seem empty if you don't see a pocket square in there. I would still go for white linen and ancient madder silk for your first two pocket squares though.


    Good luck!

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