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    I just emailed Frank and Oak asking them why some things (i.e. the blazers) were not in view. They told me that these were Hunters Club Exclusives. So if you are not in this then you're out of luck...Unless someone that is in that club will post the deals for the Hunters Club monthly?

    What we do in life echos throughout eternity.
    -Maximus

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    It's Hunt Club, and you have to sign up for it through Frank & Oak's website. There's a waiting list.


    Also, there are several F&O threads on the forums already...might want to read & post in one of those next time. No worries though; we've all done it.

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      #3


      Sorry,


      New to the boards.

      What we do in life echos throughout eternity.
      -Maximus

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        #4


        So I got my cord blazer in yesterday and while it looks like it would need the standard waist brought in and sleeves shortened, I noticed that it bunches up a little behind my neck. Now this happens to me when a blazer isn't big enough in a chest but I ordered the 40R this time and I'm 39" in the chest. It doesn't feel tight in the chest all so I'm not sure why it's doing. I'll probably have to end up returning it

        5'8" 155 lbs 39" chest 33" sleeves 33" waist

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          #5


          Waiting on the chestnut blazer I ordered last week... crossing fingers for a decent fit (36R).

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            #6


            Here's an idea...Advertise that you're $50 or less and ACTUALLY price everything at $50 or less...

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              #7


              They just released some tweed blazers for $125 I got the email about tweed blazers and was about to hop on as many as they had at 50 each. Theyre $125 ea though. Not horribly priced, but quite a step up from 50.

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                #8


                Frank and Oak in my opinion is one huge tease. This is merely my perception, but this is how I feel their business model works.


                1) Advertise as a site that makes slim clothes for $50 or less, including blazers OMG!!!!

                2) Make 2 blazers in each size for each style.

                3) Force people to join a monthly club in order to have access to these blazers, however you can't pick them for your hunt club trial pack. You can only buy them outright.

                4) Make slim fit clothing that is overpriced in most cases for the quality you receive to make up for the low/no margins that the blazers take in.

                5) Send people the clothes that they pick out to try on. If they don't like anything, they can return it all, but if you do we're going to charge you $45 for a credit towards a future purchase.

                6) Profit!

                7) Get tons of mail complaining that the blazers sell out too fast, so you start making 3 per size per style and start charging more.

                8) More Profit!


                In case you couldn't tell, I'm not a fan of Frank & Oak or their incredibly deceptive business model.

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                  #9


                  I'd like to say that when I returned my entire crate in September (didn't realize their stuff was made one size too small for me) I was not charged anything. Nor was there any credit added to my account as a result or "penalty". I never paid shipping in either direction. I'm not trying to sway anyone toward/away from Frank & Oak. I certainly believe everyone has a right to their own opinion.


                  I'm not sure about the blazer thing so I cannot speak to that. I don't have an opinion, because I'm not inclined to purchase a blazer without a test drive. I'm picky when it comes to fit. $125 seems high to me, but could be a value to someone else and worth the risk.


                  I can't speak to the durability of their items because October is the first time (out of two tries) that I have kept any of the items in my crate (I sized up this time around). But I've been very happy with the fit. For me personally, if I buy a dress shirt at Target I have to get it tailored. The aggregate cost for an item that fits me appropriately from Target is equal as compared to an item from F&O that fits me well out of the box and is of similar quality (IMHO). This is just my $.02.

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                    #10


                    @Jared


                    They may very well have changed the $45 policy, but I was so turned off by their practices that I had them remove me from the hunt club completely. I won't be going back.


                    Again, my feelings are all my PERCEPTION. I have no inside information or insight into how they run their business. They should worry though that some of their practices give customers this perception and I've seen it posted on many boards by far better people than me.

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                      #11


                      @bere09 - Again, I'm not trying to sway. I've no horse in the race. Simply providing my experience. I'm sorry your experience was less than desirable. (<-- this is sincere and hopefully not misconstrued as sarcasm. I feel like I need to specify on the interwebs sometimes)

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                        #12


                        @Jared


                        No worries man! It's nice to be able to have a conversation on the internet without feeling like people are going to get pissed off.

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                          #13


                          @bere09


                          Agreed. I guess this is just the world we live in.

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                            #14


                            I believe the $45 fee youre speaking about is for hunt club members that do not act on their membership. If you choose to have items sent to you, or choose to opt out for the month, there are no associated fees. If you do nothing, they charge you $45 which is turned into credit. I am assuming it is to promote members actually taking an interest in their offerings each month, instead of joining for a single item. All it takes to avoid this situation is to log on at the beginning of the month and press a button to opt out for the month. That may put some people off, but I dont think it is a horrible business practice.


                            Everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion on this matter, and I definitely agree the business model is not for everyone, but it also isnt predatory.

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                              #15


                              A bit of discovery from their FAQ page:
                              <blockquote>

                              Am I committing to anything by joining (Hunt Club)?


                              There are never any obligations to buy as a Hunt Club partner. After receiving your email alert on the first day of each month, you can browse and select 1-3 items in your Hunt Club selection. If you choose to make a purchase, your order will be processed immediately. If you’d rather not receive any items for free at home try on for a given month, simply skip the month and we’ll e-mail you again when the next collection launches. If you don't request a Crate or skip the month, we conveniently charge and credit your account for the value of one shirt ($45) for use on future Frank & Oak purchases (note: this only applies to partners who have made a Frank & Oak purchase. Partners who have not made a purchase on Frank & Oak are not part of our monthly billing cycle yet). We do expect our Hunt Club partners to be more engaged, and purchase more frequently than others. This does not limit you from making purchases, and you can still buy anything you like from the online store, and still receive free shipping and credits for every purchase.</blockquote>


                              Guess I wasn't charged anything because I returned all of my items in Sept. Now that I have made a purchase, it seems as if I'll be credited the value of a shirt if I "opt out" of a future month. Sounds like more than pressing a button to opt out and avoid being "credited" $45. That seems like an odd practice. It makes the first sentence of their answer worthless IMHO.

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