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[sskim3]

I second the Windsor.

Isn't a windsor more appropriate with a suit? If I had to nitpick, I would rather him stick with the FIH knot and wear a more casual collar spread. I feel like a button down collar would have been the perfect choice with a FIH knot.

[Pepetito]

True. With a more point collar that knot wesks better

[thecharlesg]

This is super sharp. It's obvious you are a classy dresser; however, I'd recommend you tie your knot with a full-windsor. It looks like you are using a four-in-hand on all your fits. Since you seem to prefer a spread collar, a full-windsor will give you a more substantial knot that is also more symmetrical.

For me, the Windsor knots are not something I would consider wearing. But, to each his own.

EDIT: I will admit that I did not tie a very good knot there. It needs some serious tightening.

[thecharlesg]

Today, also wearing brown cap toes, although you can't tell from this pic. This is a dragon inside suit. I love the fabric, but they put heavy shoulder pads in their suits, which I don't like. I wouldn't recommend the brand to anyone, but I do like the suit. Tie is from the tie bar. Shirt is by Kamakura.

[hornsup84]

Not that I'm 100% on the Bond-is-always-right wagon, but on Windsor knots I think he has it right:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...a-Windsor-knot!!
http://www.gq.com/story/windsor-knot-james-bond
http://thesuitsofjamesbond.com/how-bond-ties-his-ties/

When you're dressed in full business attire (or anything with a tie, really), it just seems too calculating. I prefer to add a little asymmetry and interest using the FIH. Also, practically speaking, I'm tall and a full windsor would make my ties comically short.

Edit: To complete my thought, I also prefer point and semi-spread collars to full spread collars, so a windsor wouldn't really fit my look as well anyway.

[C.Dubs]

When you're dressed in full business attire (or anything with a tie, really), it just seems too calculating. I prefer to add a little asymmetry and interest using the FIH. Also, practically speaking, I'm tall and a full windsor would make my ties comically short.

+1. I sat here for five minutes trying to articulate this exact sentiment. Glad you were able to say it so well.

[thedrake]

When you're dressed in full business attire (or anything with a tie, really), it just seems too calculating. I prefer to add a little asymmetry and interest using the FIH. Also, practically speaking, I'm tall and a full windsor would make my ties comically short.

Edit: To complete my thought, I also prefer point and semi-spread collars to full spread collars, so a windsor wouldn't really fit my look as well anyway.

Thirded

[Pepetito]

Not that I'm 100% on the Bond-is-always-right wagon, but on Windsor knots I think he has it right:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...a-Windsor-knot!!
http://www.gq.com/story/windsor-knot-james-bond
http://thesuitsofjamesbond.com/how-bond-ties-his-ties/

When you're dressed in full business attire (or anything with a tie, really), it just seems too calculating. I prefer to add a little asymmetry and interest using the FIH. Also, practically speaking, I'm tall and a full windsor would make my ties comically short.

Edit: To complete my thought, I also prefer point and semi-spread collars to full spread collars, so a windsor wouldn't really fit my look as well anyway.

To each his own. The symmetry of the full Windsor is actually what I like best about it. and the fact that it fits spread collars well.

[connersw]

Not that I'm 100% on the Bond-is-always-right wagon, but on Windsor knots I think he has it right:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...a-Windsor-knot!!
http://www.gq.com/story/windsor-knot-james-bond
http://thesuitsofjamesbond.com/how-bond-ties-his-ties/

Interesting reading. Particularly the first thread regarding the cultural divide. It wasn't until I started reading AAAC and Styleforum that I became more aware of British styling cues, and I'm still learning. As someone in the US with OCD that was born to immigrants, comments like "too symmetrical," "anal retentive," and "social climbing" aren't seen as negatives (I even used an Oxford comma--how's that for anal retentive?).


To me, this doesn't look too cool to care; it looks like you never learned how to tie a tie. It's not just the asymmetry, but the tail sticking out to the side and nothing even close to a proper dimple underneath. But yes, to each his own.

[thecharlesg]

To each his own. The symmetry of the full Windsor is actually what I like best about it. and the fact that it fits spread collars well.

I'll give a little background to why I shy away from Windsor knots. I tend to gravitate toward the modern dandy look. This look is not always appropriate; so I am normally toned down. I normally do try to incorporate some of what I've found online into my looks. My favorite people to follow on Instagram are Khaled Nasr, Mr. Raro, and Daniel Zaccone. I prefer an Italian look with soft shoulders. I also prefer spread/semi-spread collars with long enough collar points to fit under my lapels. Lastly I like variations of the FIH knot. I can't dress like a dandy at all times, because I wouldn't be taken seriously in a professional setting. What I can do is incorporate parts of the look.

Here is a great article on the FIH knot, from Articles of Style, who I consider to be a wonderful resource.

[Pepetito]

I'll give a little background to why I shy away from Windsor knots. I tend to gravitate toward the modern dandy look. This look is not always appropriate; so I am normally toned down. I normally do try to incorporate some of what I've found online into my looks. My favorite people to follow on Instagram are Khaled Nasr, Mr. Raro, and Daniel Zaccone. I prefer an Italian look with soft shoulders. I also prefer spread/semi-spread collars with long enough collar points to fit under my lapels. Lastly I like variations of the FIH knot. I can't dress like a dandy at all times, because I wouldn't be taken seriously in a professional setting. What I can do is incorporate parts of the look.

Here is a great article on the FIH knot, from Articles of Style, who I consider to be a wonderful resource.

Serious question: what does "modern dandy" mean?

[Shomas]

I even used an Oxford comma--how's that for anal retentive?

I'm an Oxford comma man, but I consider it a sign of sensibility rather than anal retentiveness.

[thecharlesg]

Serious question: what does "modern dandy" mean?

The definition of dandy is as follows :a man unduly devoted to style, neatness, and fashion in dress and appearance. I'm going to assume you know the definition of modern. Generally speaking, I'd say big lapels, big shirt collars, soft shoulders, bold colors, FIH knots... Look at the instagrams of the people I mentioned and that should give you a good idea.

[thecharlesg]

Serious question: what does "modern dandy" mean?

Like this. I normally wear suits to work. They are usually not wildly styled. I have to maintain some level of professionalism. However, I like these styles and incorporate what I can.

[Pepetito]

The definition of dandy is as follows :a man unduly devoted to style, neatness, and fashion in dress and appearance. I'm going to assume you know the definition of modern. Generally speaking, I'd say big lapels, big shirt collars, soft shoulders, bold colors, FIH knots... Look at the instagrams of the people I mentioned and that should give you a good idea.

Interesting. I also wear suits to work. Required. I tend to stick to "boring" color shirts in white, light blue, light grey and ties in navy, gray, black, burgundy, and dark purple. I also stick to windsors ties daily