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  • DJLaw
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    I'd have to agree with the prevailing sentiment here: wear a tuxedo. Despite the social rules of when (time of day) to wear a tuxedo, the color of the jacket, etc., go with a black, peak lapel 2 button standard "tux" tuxedo. If the couple getting married thought enough so say "prefer" on their save the date, it could be safe to assume that they'd prefer their guests not to not wear one.


    If cost is a concern, try saving $50 a month. You mentioned that it's a spring ceremony - that's got to be 7-9 months away, right? $350 can certainly buy a respectable second-hand tuxedo (which may not even need to many alterations).


    Unless you're 60 and have made it through life without ever renting or having to own a tux, use this as an excuse to invest in one. Just 3 wears in its lifetime pays for the price of a moderate tuxedo vs. renting. And trust me: comfort is key in events where black-tie is optional. No one stands out in at evening/formal events in tuxedo (their original purpose), gentlemen that try edgy or formal-suit combos do, which may make the wearer incredibly uncomfortable.


    Watch a red carpet show (or look at Esquire/GQ still shots of one) and see who the "winners" and "losers" are. Classic tuxedo at a black-tie option event will not only placate your hosts, but will probably win you points with your date.

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  • kenneth
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    Vis-a-vis the bowtie, oops! Misread your comment entirely. My mistake.

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  • Bookman
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    I stand by both recs....and have never liked Indochino; probably my least favorite lapels of any legitimate suitmaker, and they don't change their suggestions for tuxedos from their normal suit suggestions (i.e.: they say a one button tuxedo is "fashion forward," when it is the classic and historical norm).The button stance is also too high for a classic tuxedo; but, now I'm nit-picking..

    It's a good alternative to Banana Republic, though...


    Self tie bowties (which you must wear with a tuxedo) are the ones you tie yourself.

    Pre-tied bowties make the angels weep......and the Italians laugh....

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  • kenneth
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    ^ in good conscience it seems unconscionable to allow a JAB tuxedo to be recommended when an Indochino custom has been proposed for even less .


    And I must express indignation that any gentleman would wear a self-tie bowtie! (I say this after spending hours learning how to tie a bowtie right before the event I was wearing one to)

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  • Bookman
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    In general, Black Tie preferred means "wear Black Tie." I agree that, if you can't afford one (either renting or purchasing) then a dark suit with a black necktie is the best option. In these types of parties, you are not looking to stand out...standing out is bad...If I were making the choice, I would just rent a tux.


    If you do decide to look for a tux to buy, then I would suggest making sure that it has peak grosgrain lapels, a single button closure, and no vent in the back of the jacket.

    This one is available for $400, and is a great deal....

    http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop...1_10050_101786

    Also...best to wear a self-tie bowtie....

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  • bremersm
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    Thanks JT. The desire for the bowtie is due to the fact that the wedding is in the South and the bride; who is a close friend of my wife's is very much a Southern Belle. When I think of the old South I think of bowties.

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  • JT10000
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    Don't wear a bow tie. It'll look like you're trying to fake a tux and be weak. Get a very formal, simple straight tie - perhaps something striped with at most two colors. Or one color - perhaps black if that's sufficiently different than your suit.

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  • bremersm
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    Well, I just got my Father's Day gift. It was late because my wife ordered it from Charles Tyrwhitt. Part of the gift was a charcoal waist coat that is an exact color match for my JCrew Thompson suit. I am thinking of wearing the waist coat with the suit as a three piece. Thoughts? To make it even formal I am going to wear a white french cuff and a black bow tie.

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  • saleen
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    I agree that 3pm is a bit early for a tux. However, that being said, this is the bride and groom's choice. If I was invited to a black tie event that started at 10am, I would still wear my tux. I would think they made a bad choice, but its not my call.


    That being said, this scenario says "black tie preferred." If I didn't already have a tux and thought $400 for a tux wasn't "cheap," I'd wear my darkest suit possible with a white shirt, black shoes and formal belt.

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  • nicholascrawford
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    The obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_P7yWnAAd0

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  • hornsup84
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    I'm with greg on timing -- etiquette dictates 6pm as the cutoff for formal attire, but I think you could swing a 5pm service, as you'll be around mostly in the evening, but 3pm seems like a stretch.

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  • greg_s
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    While that is true, NC, I'm still not sure I would throw on a tux at 3pm...

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  • nicholascrawford
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    I wouldn't worry about being too dressed up early in the day. You've gotta plan for the whole night.

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  • bremersm
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    @nicholascrawford - correct. The ceremony is at 3. If it is a Mass then the cocktail hour will likely be at 6 and the sitdown dinner at 7 with dancing late into the evening.


    The more I think about it the more I think I will wear a charcoal suit with a french cuffed white shirt.

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  • BB
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    If I were you, I'd wear a navy suit and a dark grenadine tie. Check out Clooney: http://putthison.com/post/3144782372...haps-ironic-in

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