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    The Problem with Allen Edmonds--or is a problem with me?

    Jeez, I've been on a shoe buying spree the last month or so. Mostly vintage stuff, two pairs of Florsheim vcleats--one is shell--a pair of Nettletons from the 80's, and several others--plus a nice almost new pair of Crockett and Jones loafers that I got for a steal. I've got at least 10 pairs sitting here in my home office because there's not room in my closet with the other 40 or so pairs.

    I got busy at work and let a pair of Allen Edmonds unworn Jefferson's in walnut go for $68 on ebay--broke my heart.

    But anyways, just when I swear I will never buy another pair of AE shoes because I have way too many AE shoes and I want some others--they put on a sale like this--shell cordovan loafers for $375? Not factory seconds?

    Crap--I'm going to resist.

    I hope. I work too much. Then I drink too much. Then I buy too many shoes.

    https://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/m...efv1=12%7C12.5


    Long Branch boots for $160?

    https://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/m...&start=1&sz=54



    AE needs to stop with these crazy sales.
    WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

    #2
    If you're filling a hole in your wardrobe and you happen upon a sale that's one thing... Buying just because there's a sale? That's different.

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      #3
      Personally I found that once I got past a certain # of pairs of shoes, the allure of buying something just because it's a good deal went away. I also think that since shoes are a serious hobby for you, you should look around at the various makers more and see exactly what you like best as far as style, fit, and cost. For most people they don't want to spend too much on shoes but still want something decent so AE fits the bill and they have like 3 pairs of shoes that suits their needs, but if you're going to be dropping thousands or even tens of thousands on shoes then you have a lot more options and should buy the things you like best rather than the things that are the best deals. If the answer to that question is AE then great, but who knows you might find another maker out there that you prefer to AE, and in that case it might be better to have 10 pairs from that maker than 50 pairs from AE.

      I started out with like 5-10 pairs of AE because I got them as "great" deals but then later found out I prefer other brands that for me personally fit better and look better, so ended up selling most of them. These days I've seen brand new AE 1sts for <$100 which is a great deal for what it is, but I have no desire to buy them because they'd never make it into my rotation.

      More generally I think it's a journey that most people go through where when you're starting out you don't haven't nailed down your style and exactly what you like, so the notion that something is great bang for buck or a great deal kind of helps fill that gap (and make it lower cost / risk to try something), but as you go on your closet gets more full, you figure out what your style is and exactly what you like, then it becomes more about buying what you like and less buying something because it's a good deal.
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        #4
        I just bought blue cornwallis off the bank and got em yesterday.

        I'm of no assistance here
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          #5
          Oh didja hear chili shell is a standard option for strand dalton higgins and park ave now?

          Sorry.
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            #6
            I can very much relate to this (the buying too many shoes part, not the working too much or drinking too much). A couple of things that may or may not be helpful: I am trying to justify new purchases before I make them. It's easier if it's a replacement purchase (needed something waterproof), or a special circumstance (I bought a pair of Paraboot loafers in Paris because they don't sell them online). Second, I have been selling off things that I no longer wear or shouldn't have bought in the first place. That helps to bring a little more balance to my assortment.

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              #7
              I have the Patriots in brown shell. Picked them up as seconds for about the same price. I love them and you are seriously tempting me to pick up the burgundy pair, but they would be redundant with my Aldens. 😬

              Luckily, I took a deep breath and reminded myself that I am not buying clothes or shoes this year. Only 10 1/2 more months to go!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bruce Wayne View Post
                If you're filling a hole in your wardrobe and you happen upon a sale that's one thing... Buying just because there's a sale? That's different.
                You're right. But I can always find a hole. I have suede blue tassel loafers. I have black and burgundy tassel loafers. I have chili kilted tassel loafers (but for wearing inside only). I have walnut and brown penny loafers. I have blue driving loafers. I have new old stock vintage burgundy loafers made by Wright (for inside only).

                But I don't have BURGUNDY SHELL PENNY LOAFERS!

                Also, I don't have walnut full-brogue oxford wingtips. Yes, I have walnut full brogue derbies, but that's not the same as oxfords. See, those Jeffersons are calling my name!

                But even though I can find holes, I want some different brands. I'd like some Aldens, Carmina, and St. Crispin shoes.

                I'm an idiot sucker for a 50% off or more sale.
                WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Token View Post
                  Personally I found that once I got past a certain # of pairs of shoes, the allure of buying something just because it's a good deal went away. I also think that since shoes are a serious hobby for you, you should look around at the various makers more and see exactly what you like best as far as style, fit, and cost. For most people they don't want to spend too much on shoes but still want something decent so AE fits the bill and they have like 3 pairs of shoes that suits their needs, but if you're going to be dropping thousands or even tens of thousands on shoes then you have a lot more options and should buy the things you like best rather than the things that are the best deals. If the answer to that question is AE then great, but who knows you might find another maker out there that you prefer to AE, and in that case it might be better to have 10 pairs from that maker than 50 pairs from AE.

                  I started out with like 5-10 pairs of AE because I got them as "great" deals but then later found out I prefer other brands that for me personally fit better and look better, so ended up selling most of them. These days I've seen brand new AE 1sts for <$100 which is a great deal for what it is, but I have no desire to buy them because they'd never make it into my rotation.

                  More generally I think it's a journey that most people go through where when you're starting out you don't haven't nailed down your style and exactly what you like, so the notion that something is great bang for buck or a great deal kind of helps fill that gap (and make it lower cost / risk to try something), but as you go on your closet gets more full, you figure out what your style is and exactly what you like, then it becomes more about buying what you like and less buying something because it's a good deal.
                  Yes, you're reading my mind. Of course you're 100% correct.

                  I would like to replace some of my AE, Jack Erwin, and Frye shoes/boots I already have with Carmina, Alden, St. Crispin, Church's, and G&G, for examples.

                  I've never had a retail problem before I bought my first pair of Allen Edmonds shoes a couple of years ago. But now I can't seem to stop.

                  And that's the problem with Allen Edmonds. Or is it a problem with me?
                  WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by armedferret View Post
                    I just bought blue cornwallis off the bank and got em yesterday.

                    I'm of no assistance here
                    Originally posted by armedferret View Post
                    Oh didja hear chili shell is a standard option for strand dalton higgins and park ave now?

                    Sorry.
                    You're evil, but you're making me laugh.
                    WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mebejoseph View Post
                      You're evil, but you're making me laugh.
                      Then my jerb here is done....

                      I'm really happy to see the turnaround Caleres have done with AE. They were teetering on the brink of pitchforks and torches for a hot minute.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Loafer28 View Post
                        I have the Patriots in brown shell. Picked them up as seconds for about the same price. I love them and you are seriously tempting me to pick up the burgundy pair, but they would be redundant with my Aldens. ��

                        Luckily, I took a deep breath and reminded myself that I am not buying clothes or shoes this year. Only 10 1/2 more months to go!
                        Okay, I can afford Aldens or Carmina shell and I'd rather have them, but the AE patriot is almost as good, right? And they are half the price. So, I should get the less expensive ones, no? That's the way my momma raised me. Except should would never spend more than $100 for a pair of shoes. She saw some shoes on Amazon for $60 that she really wanted, so I got them for her, and she said they are the nicest shoes she's ever had. See?

                        Maybe it's like women? I wanted lots of women until I met my wife. Then I just wanted her.
                        WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Loafer28 View Post
                          I have the Patriots in brown shell. Picked them up as seconds for about the same price. I love them and you are seriously tempting me to pick up the burgundy pair, but they would be redundant with my Aldens. 😬

                          Luckily, I took a deep breath and reminded myself that I am not buying clothes or shoes this year. Only 10 1/2 more months to go!
                          Okay, they don't have my size, so I'm safe on the Patriots.
                          WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by the passenger View Post
                            I can very much relate to this (the buying too many shoes part, not the working too much or drinking too much). A couple of things that may or may not be helpful: I am trying to justify new purchases before I make them. It's easier if it's a replacement purchase (needed something waterproof), or a special circumstance (I bought a pair of Paraboot loafers in Paris because they don't sell them online). Second, I have been selling off things that I no longer wear or shouldn't have bought in the first place. That helps to bring a little more balance to my assortment.
                            Okay, it sounds like you've got your mind right on this. I need to find that place.
                            WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mebejoseph View Post
                              Okay, I can afford Aldens or Carmina shell and I'd rather have them, but the AE patriot is almost as good, right? And they are half the price. So, I should get the less expensive ones, no? That's the way my momma raised me. Except should would never spend more than $100 for a pair of shoes. She saw some shoes on Amazon for $60 that she really wanted, so I got them for her, and she said they are the nicest shoes she's ever had. See?

                              Maybe it's like women? I wanted lots of women until I met my wife. Then I just wanted her.
                              I actually like my patriots slightly better than my Alden’s. You can’t beat Alden’s #8 color and their finishing is unique (glossier than AE which is good or bad depending on your taste). The thing I like about the patriots is that they are sleeker. Alden’s are kinda clunky. They are good for a certain look, but the Patriots work everywhere imo. That’s why I almost picked these up even though they are redundant. With you being in SoCal, I am sure you can find a way to try on both even if not the shell version.

                              I can’t speak to Carmina’s Shell, but they sure look beautiful!

                              My 2 cents: if you are going to continue buying shoes at the pace you have been, pick up the AE. If you are going to slow down a bit and focus on higher end brands, wait.

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