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    #16
    Oh I know exactly what you mean. Got a sizeable income increase recently but work is a much more dressed down place (not because i'm super important though!)

    Some tips:

    1. don't wear jeans. yeah, there are expensive high end jeans...but it's hard for jeans to "look expensive" at a glance. everyone wears jeans and outside of shade/fades they all look the same. i stick with grey 5 pockets
    2. wear henleys. it's the "edgy" thing to do atm
    3. texture, different fabric helps stand out quietly. silk, cashmere, wool can all add "depth" which makes clothes look more expensive
    4. polos are easy to go cheap on but look expensive: they just have to fit well. i like the BR don't sweat it polos
    5. suede shoes, the silhouette of dress shoes w.o looking like you're trying to dress up
    6. a nice non-dress watch
    7. focus on outerwear: it's very easy to spot good outerwear compared to cheaper options and it's replaced my blazers (which i still wear occasionally over a henley)
    8. don't be afraid to buy what should be "cheap" pieces from more expensive places. my favorite henleys are from suitsupply. they are $64 a pop but the fabric is amazing (for cotton), the fit is great and honestly they feel amazing on me
    9. if you need some inspiration, watch billions or succession to see how rich people dress casually
    10. don't overthink it too much, just live your life, be comfortable and enjoy your life

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      #17
      I work for a finance company headquartered in Miami and often go to high-end resorts (like this) for my job. Here are the pieces that I wear. Get an Orelbar Brown swimsuit on clearance. A couple of linen shirts from Kamakura. An unstructured, unlined blazer from Suitsupply. Woven loafers from Allen Edmonds. Kent Wang polos with non-roll collars. Shorts from Bonobos.

      None of these pieces are "budget" item, but they're all simple, elegant, high quality and unbranded.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Scofield View Post
        Oh I know exactly what you mean. Got a sizeable income increase recently but work is a much more dressed down place (not because i'm super important though!)

        Some tips:

        1. don't wear jeans. yeah, there are expensive high end jeans...but it's hard for jeans to "look expensive" at a glance. everyone wears jeans and outside of shade/fades they all look the same. i stick with grey 5 pockets
        2. wear henleys. it's the "edgy" thing to do atm
        3. texture, different fabric helps stand out quietly. silk, cashmere, wool can all add "depth" which makes clothes look more expensive
        4. polos are easy to go cheap on but look expensive: they just have to fit well. i like the BR don't sweat it polos
        5. suede shoes, the silhouette of dress shoes w.o looking like you're trying to dress up
        6. a nice non-dress watch
        7. focus on outerwear: it's very easy to spot good outerwear compared to cheaper options and it's replaced my blazers (which i still wear occasionally over a henley)
        8. don't be afraid to buy what should be "cheap" pieces from more expensive places. my favorite henleys are from suitsupply. they are $64 a pop but the fabric is amazing (for cotton), the fit is great and honestly they feel amazing on me
        9. if you need some inspiration, watch billions or succession to see how rich people dress casually
        10. don't overthink it too much, just live your life, be comfortable and enjoy your life
        I don’t agree with some of your tips and think you’re misunderstanding the proposition of “expensive” clothing. It’s not really about being able to recognize expensive materials (there’s no way you can tell at first glance whether a sweater is made from merino wool or cashmere), it’s more that:

        1) “expensive” clothing offers more ranges of fits (since they’re less designed to fit mass market) so you can probably find stuff that fits you better

        2) you get more options along the design dimension. For example I strongly disagree with your claim that all jeans look the same. Higher end jeans come in a variety of rises and tapers that change the look and formality.

        Ultimately your 10) is what matters the most.
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          #19
          Being confident in yourself that you belong among them is honestly what is going to make the difference. I realize that isnt exactly a switch you can flip, but it will mean more than any label. My advice is look to the preppies, they do quality casual clothes like no one else. Not vineyard vines, real preppy stuff like J. Press, shaggy dog, boast.
          https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/
          http://www.ivy-style.com/

          It seems like you want flashier clothes, which arent usually described with things like quality or value. From my experience Burberry makes some great stuff, gucci shoes are amazing, coach shoes are nice, RRL, etc. However, you said there was no way you'd spend $1,000 on a shirt so you kinda need to make up your mind on what you want to do. Cant stay thrifty and expect to knock people out with your labels.

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            #20
            As you all recognize, there's a big psychological component to this for me and it's not just about fashion or clothing.

            Wrapping my head around a sudden changed paradigm has been a challenge--a good challenge, no doubt--but one that makes me feel a little disconnected from the perception I've built of myself over the years.

            I was very happy with the money I was making and very happy with the lifestyle it afforded me. Just because I'm suddenly making a few more dollars over the last year doesn't mean I need to be unhappy with those things now. It all feels a little surreal and strange because up until the end of last year, my plan was to work out my career at the level I was, but then this opportunity just fell into my lap out of nowhere.

            So, I appreciate all the thoughtful advice in both areas. I'm not going to take up the room to "reply with quote" to everything you all said, but I do want to express appreciation to you all:
            [MENTION=14773]Token[/MENTION] [MENTION=6362]IanE[/MENTION]r [MENTION=15630]Loafer28[/MENTION] [MENTION=13026]Evenflow[/MENTION] [MENTION=15101]armedferret[/MENTION] [MENTION=19117]Ron[/MENTION] [MENTION=7205]Galcobar[/MENTION] [MENTION=3173]Stu[/MENTION]ffedsuperdad [MENTION=14298]theplayerking[/MENTION] [MENTION=11046]whereismurder[/MENTION]

            All that said, I do like to have a few new things when I go on vacation, so ordered a couple of causal Billy Reid shirts. And while I wasn't asking for dress shirt advice, I ordered a few Ledbury shirts to wear to the nice dinners instead of my Paul Fredrick shirts--I really like the Ledbury shirts. I picked up a few of their casual shirts a year or two ago at Nordstrom Rack for about $40 each, but this time I actually got them from Ledbury (okay, they were 30% off because I got three).

            I've also been in the process of donating some of my lower-end things that I don't necessarily feel good wearing. After this, I might even get rid of a few more pairs of shoes (and replace them with something I like better).

            And I'm still struggling with the idea of even entry level luxury watches. Why are they better than a Citizen Eco Drive? I think those are the best watches ever. You don't need to wind them or change batteries or worry about them and some of them look great. See? My mother drilled that thriftiness into this brain of mine.
            WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Scofield View Post
              9. if you need some inspiration, watch billions or succession to see how rich people dress casually
              Hey, hey--Bobby Axelrod--billionaire walking around in his henleys and graphic tee's. I always get a kick out of that.
              WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                #22
                Definitely look at stuff like Todd Snyder or Billy Reid. They won't have logos and will look/feel better than JCrew/BR.

                But...I still don't really consider them a high level luxury good that the type of people you're talking about would wear. Hell, I'm not really sure what wealthy people actually wear. Are these the type of people that would go to somewhere like Bijan?

                But from what it sounds like, you're looking for things that are the next level up from what is talked about here, or really a couple levels up. I would look at places like Tom Ford or Ralph Lauren Purple Label. Is $400 for a polo or $600 for a henley ridiculous money? Well, yeah obviously, but it sounds like that's the type of place you're looking at?

                Is a $450 linen shirt going to be that much better than a $100 one? No probably not by much, but it maybe 5% better, and that 5% is really what it sounds like you want to pay for it. For the vast, vast majority of people, that proposition just makes no sense at all, but if you're making that type of money that's putting you in the circles you're talking about...maybe

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by theplayerking View Post
                  I work for a finance company headquartered in Miami and often go to high-end resorts (like this) for my job. Here are the pieces that I wear. Get an Orelbar Brown swimsuit on clearance. A couple of linen shirts from Kamakura. An unstructured, unlined blazer from Suitsupply. Woven loafers from Allen Edmonds. Kent Wang polos with non-roll collars. Shorts from Bonobos.

                  None of these pieces are "budget" item, but they're all simple, elegant, high quality and unbranded.
                  I like all that stuff and other than the swimsuits, the prices don't make me feel sick.

                  Especially, I really like those shoes, but I have so many pairs of AE already. But they are just about perfect and on sale, so . . .
                  WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Token View Post
                    I don’t agree with some of your tips and think you’re misunderstanding the proposition of “expensive” clothing. It’s not really about being able to recognize expensive materials (there’s no way you can tell at first glance whether a sweater is made from merino wool or cashmere), it’s more that:

                    1) “expensive” clothing offers more ranges of fits (since they’re less designed to fit mass market) so you can probably find stuff that fits you better

                    2) you get more options along the design dimension. For example I strongly disagree with your claim that all jeans look the same. Higher end jeans come in a variety of rises and tapers that change the look and formality.

                    Ultimately your 10) is what matters the most.
                    Fit is a very important one too and one I forgot to include in my list. My understanding was that he wanted to fit in better with upscale casual, so i provided tips for "little things" that would help him blend in more.

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                      #25
                      Buy the same clothes you always have (ok maybe splurge on an extra here or there to celebrate, but keep it simple).

                      Donate what you would have spent on new higher end clothes to charity.

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                        #26
                        You know, all this discussion has reminded me that the people who are my actual friends that I spend time with that have money aren't status seekers and don't try to impress anyone.

                        One of my best friends for over 10 years is from a mega wealthy family, NEVER talks about it, and maybe doesn't even know that I know who his family is--I knew him for a few years before I got curious and tried to figure out where he got his money from. We connect on our common view of the world, our love of music and high end sound equipment (which he can afford and I can't), and things that aren't anything that would impress most people by just looking at him. I met him in a meditation class we used to take.

                        So, while a guy like him could likely afford a $10,000 suit, he'd more likely spend the money on art or new hi-fi stylus.

                        Originally posted by alexd3 View Post
                        Definitely look at stuff like Todd Snyder or Billy Reid. They won't have logos and will look/feel better than JCrew/BR.

                        But...I still don't really consider them a high level luxury good that the type of people you're talking about would wear. Hell, I'm not really sure what wealthy people actually wear. Are these the type of people that would go to somewhere like Bijan?

                        But from what it sounds like, you're looking for things that are the next level up from what is talked about here, or really a couple levels up. I would look at places like Tom Ford or Ralph Lauren Purple Label. Is $400 for a polo or $600 for a henley ridiculous money? Well, yeah obviously, but it sounds like that's the type of place you're looking at?

                        Is a $450 linen shirt going to be that much better than a $100 one? No probably not by much, but it maybe 5% better, and that 5% is really what it sounds like you want to pay for it. For the vast, vast majority of people, that proposition just makes no sense at all, but if you're making that type of money that's putting you in the circles you're talking about...maybe
                        WHY ARE THE GUYS IN SUITS HERE? HAS SOMETHING GONE WRONG?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Loafer28 View Post

                          Just a suggestion...try looking for items made in the US and other 1st world countries (Italy, Canada, France, etc). It might help you justify the cost and the items tend to be better quality (though not always). If someone sees your shirt tag, you can talk about your ethos of avoiding sweatshop labor and environmental impact of cheaply made clothes. I imagine that conversation would go well in the circles of the upper crust.
                          This is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe something like a Scottish-made Shetland sweater from a place like O'Connell's (not for your resort vacation, obvs). There you are paying for quality, not the status of a "brand."

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                            #28
                            I think you're understanding that you have already been on the right track. Keeping up with the Jones' leads to madness and unhappiness. The whole point of this site is looking good without spending a fortune. Remember if you put a cheap outfit together well you will still look better than say Trump in his baggy, ill-fitting Brioni suits (not a political shots, I think we can agree he dresses objectively bad).

                            https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5c/25/a0/5...33869c7bf4.jpg

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                              #29
                              Yeah, I'll co-sign this, with a particular plug for the book The Life You Can Save by Peter Singer.
                              Sorry to be that guy posting about charity on a discussion forum for a clothing website.

                              Originally posted by ElDub View Post
                              Buy the same clothes you always have (ok maybe splurge on an extra here or there to celebrate, but keep it simple).

                              Donate what you would have spent on new higher end clothes to charity.

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                                #30
                                [MENTION=17354]mebejoseph[/MENTION] - I still remember the car ride to dinner after my wife gifted me my Rolex. I was in the car with my parents and we drove past the Rolex AD when I said, "oh yea, future wife got me this watch for an engagement gift, it was $9K." I knew right as it came out of my mouth, it was the wrong thing to say. Watches are things some people will notice but for the most part, Apple Watches are the norm or maybe Omega's at least here. I hardly ever see a Rolex.

                                The couple people I do know worth 8-9 figures do have luxury watches but it goes along with other things they own as well.

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