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    Has anyone “outgrown” Dappered?

    Before any gets upset, please read...

    Like many of you, I’ve been a loyal reader for as long as I can remember. I started out in my 20’s making a meager income and I needed to look nice for work. Basically, I needed stuff, I didn’t have a ton to spend, and I didn’t mind accumulating. Quantity definitely took precedent over quality.

    I’m not in my mid 30’s, and I’m making significantly more than I was when I started reading. I’ve also become smarter to realize that I don’t need as much stuff, and quality is way more important than quantity. I don’t need $30 sweaters from Amazon or cheap sport coats from Banana Republic.

    This isn’t a knock on this site, as it certainly serves a great need. However, I’m stranded in no-man’s land...I’m definitely not at a level where I’m buying the stuff I’ve seen on Permanent Style, Put This On, etc., but I’m not buying the majority of stuff I see here.

    Anybody else in a similar position? Where do you go to content that’s more applicable to you!?

    #2
    I've been around for quite a while and have not outgrown what is offered here. For instance, I still wear some of my BR sweaters I bought in 2012/2103. I have migrated towards Spier & Mackay which is a similar price point and people on here discuss all the time. It just depends on what you are looking for.

    I think you can find things here that still fit your profile. Don't just think because things are more expensive they are better. Buying J. Crew Cashmere vs. Uniqulo or some other brand likely offers very little difference even though there is a huge pricing difference.

    With that said, what are you looking for? Post up a thread asking and people will happily give you some suggestions.

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      #3
      absolutely, but i still find some of the discourse here a large bit bearable than styleforum or the GYW reddit so here I am!

      also this site knows when all the AE sales are <3
      Last edited by evanparker; September 10, 2019, 10:41 AM.

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        #4
        I’m not sure I look at it the same way. I have used the site to build a wardrobe and am at the point, for the most part, where I have what I need. As things wear out I’ll be looking to replace/upgrade and the sales are great for that. Also, new products/fits are always coming out so the reviews are nice. Even though I don’t agree with the conclusions at times the info is good. Are there things the site recommends that doesn’t fit with where I am? Sure it does, so I don’t pay attention to those. But sometimes things are mentioned that I wouldn’t have thought of for myself before. Also, I have a few things I’ve been looking at incorporating to my wardrobe or replacing, so I’ll keep an eye out for those sales or similar items to get reviewed.

        Look, if you bought a new pair of jeans every time something went on sale, you’d be crazy (IMO). So maybe ask for your specific needs and help out others asking questions that you’ve already figured out for yourself?

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          #5
          interesting post and something that may well describe my situation, but then I see posts with people posting $15,000 worth of watches among concerns about spending more than $40 on a shirt, and I figure there's still some room to grow...

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            #6
            Most definitely. To anyone who knows my posts, I am huge on Polo and Brooks Brothers which get very little coverage on this site. Back when I started reading this site (probably just past inception in 2007-2008) every post was a must read, now it's more a click on something I am interested in. Part of it is I know how to dress myself and I know my point of view (so congratulations on this site and others... you taught me well). The other part is what you said, I make more money. I still like to hear about AE, BR, different sales, but I cringe whenever JCF is posted since that garbage isnt worth the postage it costs to mail it out. I think Joe is great, and the discourse on the forum is fantastic so I post here more than read the main site.

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              #7
              I don't read the main site a ton anymore. Part of that is the removal of the comments section, which to me was one of the more enjoyable aspects of the site. Part of it is that I want my buying habits to be less driven by impulse and opportunity (i.e., the existence of a sale that drops the price of an item I wouldn't otherwise be interested in buying).

              Part of the reason I formerly used Dappered was to "find" brands that carried the kinds of things I wanted to buy at reasonable prices. I've been in the game for long enough now, though, that I pretty much know where to look to find stuff. If I wanted to go in deeper (and up higher in terms of pricing) I could get into Styleforum or wherever but that's not where my interests are at right now.
              Ben

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                #8
                Thanks to all of the posts above. I do find the forum to be useful, and the members here do a great job pitching in and answering questions. The main is the main page and JoeÂ’s articles. (Joe - you do a great job, itÂ’s me...not you.) Some of the looks and brands referenced are pretty juvenile compared to what I think most men evolve to at my age. As a poster mentioned above, JCF is garbage, and while there is still quality to be had a decent price from some of these retailers, I donÂ’t foresee myself buying a lot of the stuff I see anymore.

                I think at this point, IÂ’m looking for content that appeals more toward my age and spending habits...IÂ’m probably not on a StyleForum, PTO, GYW level, but I am looking for the gap between Dappered and these high end websites. Any thoughts?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MIS997 View Post
                  Thanks to all of the posts above. I do find the forum to be useful, and the members here do a great job pitching in and answering questions. The main is the main page and JoeÂ’s articles. (Joe - you do a great job, itÂ’s me...not you.) Some of the looks and brands referenced are pretty juvenile compared to what I think most men evolve to at my age. As a poster mentioned above, JCF is garbage, and while there is still quality to be had a decent price from some of these retailers, I donÂ’t foresee myself buying a lot of the stuff I see anymore.

                  I think at this point, IÂ’m looking for content that appeals more toward my age and spending habits...IÂ’m probably not on a StyleForum, PTO, GYW level, but I am looking for the gap between Dappered and these high end websites. Any thoughts?
                  I wouldn’t say that the places you listed are necessarily high end. The main difference is that dappered focuses on a certain price range and aesthetic and does a good job of curating relevant content such that it becomes a one stop shop if you’re starting out with the basics.

                  If you look at SF for example, two of the most popular threads are AE and Spier & Mackay which are not high end in the luxury sense of high end. GYW is a ton of Thursday boots and red wing, also not high end. You can certainly find good info for a range of budgets on these places, it’s just not curated into well synthesized and easy to digest content.

                  I’ve found places like PTO or DWW helpful as far as broadening my horizons beyond the basics, and you don’t need to spend $1,000 on a pair of shoes to try the types of style that they get into there. Just requires a bit more experimentation and active research but that makes sense when you’re going beyond the easily defined and approachable basics.
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                    #10
                    This is a great topic--and I agree.

                    I started reading this website in college, when a $200 investment for a suit seemed like a pretty serious investment, and any watch over $100 seemed like a lot. As I've gotten older, I would rather pay a little more for something that's a bit higher quality, lasts longer, and checks all of the boxes for what I'm looking for (rather than checking "most" boxes). Likewise, I'm telling myself less, "OK, this [shirt/jacket/pair of pants/etc.] comes in a weird color/pattern, but it's so cheap! I can pull it off, right?"

                    It's not that the website has become stale, by any means--it's more that it's suited towards a specific economic bracket, which is just completely fine. There are probably college kids and young professionals just discovering this website on a daily basis, and it'll be a great resource for them for the next ~3-7 years. If anything, I'm kind of surprised that Joe is able to keep the same enthusiasm for clothes in the same price bracket, year after year, while I'm sure his tastes are evolving (but then again, if you look at the earlier years of Dappered, the recommendations are certainly different).

                    Today, I pick and choose what content to read. Seasonal content like today's "Fall Temptation Guide" is still great, since there's a wide range of what's offered. But there's other content that simply doesn't appeal to me anymore as I've aged out of it, or I simply (and vehemently) disagree with his advice (namely: watches. Don't get me started).

                    I also wished the comments section were still around, but it seems like there was enough negativity on there, that Joe got fed up with it. I once made a mildly negative (but not particularly mean) comment in response to one of his reviews, and he sent me an e-mail directly about it, where it seemed like he got pretty worked up over the feedback. It seemed to me like he was already a bit triggered/sensitive already, and the comments were phased out not much long afterwards.

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                      #11
                      Dappered has outgrown me. I should rephrase, Joe has outgrown me. When I started reading 5 years ago, Joe was exactly my size. 5'10" 165 with the same exact sizing in clothes. Boy was that nice for ordering things he tested. Now he is at least 30 pounds stronger and none of our measurements match up. Oh well, it was good while it lasted. At least my sizing is more dialed in now and I buy way fewer items.

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                        #12
                        "Has anyone 'outgrown' Dappered?"

                        TOTALLY.

                        Wait, hang on...

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                          #13
                          The comments on main page articles are very much missed. I used to be able to see an article like today’s fall temptation and find alternatives I had never known about in the comments. There was sometimes negativity, and if memory serves, the removal was after some negative comments pointed at a female contributor, but, seeing comments on some Facebook stories these days makes most of that negativity seem pretty tame. There were also a few unfortunate bans on the forums that really affected some excellent sales news and higher end product discussion OP seems to be looking for.

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                            #14
                            I echo the sentiments of going from reading every main page article to skimming and skipping some. For example I skimmed the fall guide and none really spoke to me as something must have. About 2 years ago I would’ve had to purchase something from those links.

                            After learning a ton from this site initially I’ve garnered a lot more specific advice from these forums. I’ve got a handle on my ward robe and don’t want to add tons of pieces just because I can. I’m now in the replacement or add targeted pieces. I don’t want a massive ward robe. The forum helps me use my current ward robe for specific events and education on what I have.

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                              #15
                              Good topic. In my case, it's not specific to Dappered. I've outgrown style sites in general.

                              As for my reasons, I just don't have the need to anymore. I know enough about style and I have a good wardrobe of essentials and staples, so it's just about maintaining it. Unlike the OP, I haven't really upgraded to higher quality items all that much. I'm ok with Uniqlo level quality/pricing or I go a bit higher for outerwear when Uniqlo feels/looks cheap.

                              I don't think it's a bad thing to outgrow interest in style (once you have acquired sufficient knowledge, of course). I feel like it's a natural progression and should be the (mostly) final step in a man's style journey. I dislike the wasteful/materialistic consumer culture and think it's pointless to needlessly keep buying clothes forever.

                              During my style journey I read A LOT of style articles everyday. Now, I just visit dappered and check if there's anyhing interesting in the forums, and I also visit fashionbeans coz they have daily articles (but I skip most), but I only do so as an afterthought. The excitement isn't there anymore.

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