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    I am starting a shoe rotation after throwing out all my old worn out dress shoes. And since I have found this site I am much more calculated with my wardrobe and I thank everyone here for the knowledge. I just bought dark brown monk straps from Meermin. And now I want another pair of shoes. From what I researched black oxfords seem like a clear cut staple that I must own. But I do find plain black shoes really boring and unappealing. I work in a business casual enviornment so I do not wear suits to work so although black might be most formal I dont think I have a great need for them. So I was thinking of getting burgundy oxfords toe caps, maybe with the brogue just at the toe cap? I would like your feedback please. Thank you all.

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    Black is the most formal, but burgundy is a good substitute and (if dark enough) can be worn with just about anything. Well, I'd avoid the Joker green-purple combo. They even work with black pants, which generally looks odd with brown shoes.

    Given you have a business casual office, the shoe design you describe is plenty formal enough to offset the less formal colour. Though really an oxford should always be formal enough for such an office, even a full brogue.

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    • #3
      Burgundy is my favorite shoe color. But I don't think they look good with black trousers. I also don't much like plain black shoes (anymore--it used to be all I have).

      However, I have two pairs of shoes that are two-tone black and burgundy (one pair of oxfords and one pair of boots). I do wear those with black trousers and jeans.

      But if you don't have any black trousers you're concerned with--go for the burgundy. But if you have black pants, my suggestion is to get a pair of black full brogue wingtips if you don't like plain shoes. They are very versatile.
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      • #4
        You know, you might just find a pair of both on shoebank for what one or the other would normally cost.

        That said, go ahead for the burgundy first especially if you'll get more wear out of them on the daily. But I would still strongly recommend following up as soon as you're able with a pair of black plain or cap-toe oxfords like a Park Ave or similar.
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        • #5
          black is just good for weddings. more or less.


          you get a lot more use out of a brown wingtip. or a redwingtip maybe, but try brown first. red is fun but less useful than you might think. it's hard to pair with things.

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          • #6
            I don’t wear black trousers but outside of a funeral I haven’t worn black dress shoes in over a year. I work in a formal environment and varying shades of brown have always worked. If you want burgundy I’d go that route.

            At least in my business environment the only people that wear black shoes are the poor fitting square toe ecco type ones.

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            • #7
              if we're considering other colors, a light-brown wingtip (walnut mcallister, meermin copper antique wingtip) is a really good choice too.

              but if you've got a wedding or funeral (the latter can be very sudden, of course) to attend and formality is appropriate, you'll want that black cap-toe in the arsenal.

              I picked up some AE Park Aves on ebay for just that purpose that were apparently worn like....3 times. The cork hadn't even conformed to the previous owner's feet. They were just a hair over $100.
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              • #8
                You haven't discussed budget, but depending on how much total you want to spend, you could get only the shoes you want and like right now.

                Then, when the need arises for a formal black shoe, go to your local Nordstrom Rack and pick up a pair of inexpensive black shoes. There's no point in spending money you don't have on a pair of shoes you'll only wear twice a year or so.
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                • #9
                  I am currently looking for a reasonable pair of burgundy semi-brogue oxfords. Please let me know what make and model you end up with.

                  I wouldn't compare burgundy/oxblood to black shoes except that both go well with charcoal trousers. But, the same thing can be said for burgundy and most any color.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ianr View Post
                    I am currently looking for a reasonable pair of burgundy semi-brogue oxfords. Please let me know what make and model you end up with.

                    I wouldn't compare burgundy/oxblood to black shoes except that both go well with charcoal trousers. But, the same thing can be said for burgundy and most any color.
                    What budget is reasonable?

                    JFitzpatrick has these on pre-order sale right now for $316:

                    https://us.jfitzpatrickfootwear.com/...-burgundy-calf
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                    • #11
                      I love my burgundy shoes. I have a pair of black oxfords that I must confess never see the light of day. I keep them around for special occasions, but even then, they are probably like new.

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                      • #12
                        I'm with everyone here - I think burgundy shoes look great with most everything, especially the staple blues and grays. To me, AE's chili is a perfect shade - deep and rich without being too flashy. And something about adelaides agrees with that shade IMO. So, Cornwallis in chili FTW!

                        I also like the looks of Beckett Simonson's Durant in bordeaux and Spier & Mackay's "burgundy cap-toe":

                        https://www.beckettsimonon.com/produ...-leather-brown

                        https://www.spierandmackay.com/burgundy-cap-toe.html

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                        • #13
                          I'm looking at some pics of burgundy shoes with outfits and it seems like the darker shades are probably more versatile. Would you guys agree?

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                          • #14
                            Echoing what everyone else said - other than a handful of formal occasions, black shoes are barely necessary (unless you have a preference for them). I probably haven't worn my black oxfords in well over a year.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tacitus View Post
                              Echoing what everyone else said - other than a handful of formal occasions, black shoes are barely necessary (unless you have a preference for them). I probably haven't worn my black oxfords in well over a year.
                              Or unless you're a lawyer going to court. On one occasion in the last year, I wore brown shoes to court. I was the only lawyer or consultant involved in our multi-party case that wasn't wearing black shoes.

                              Okay--my shoes were better than the ones worn by others (AE Macalister)--but the only brown shoes among all the government lawyers.
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