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    #31
    I bought a Vostok scuba dude watch when they became available with Amazon Prime and I have never been so disappointed in the apparent build quality of a watch. And I've owned my share of $15 Chinese eBay mechanicals....
    Ben

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      #32
      That Timex is kind of cool (I sort of like the Matte finish) but I'd go with the Casio. I've had several Timex Expeditions over the years, and the hands/faces tend to be pretty plasticky looking. That Casio, on the other hand, is exactly the look I think of when I think Diver. It gets a ton of love around here. The rubber bracelet doesn't seem to be to your liking (though the Seiko on my wrist today has one). You could replace the bracelet easily enough and still come in cheaper than the Timex. Two other suggestions- Invicta. They have a Submariner knock off that people like. Quartz one is pretty cheap, and the Automatic is about the same price as the Timex.

      Also, while searching for the Invicta, this Sturhling Quartz popped up. No direct experience but it looks pretty nice and the reviews are good.
      https://www.amazon.com/Stuhrling-Ori...ro+diver&psc=1

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        #33
        Which cheapo dive watch?

        Originally posted by LesserBlackDog View Post
        I bought a Vostok scuba dude watch when they became available with Amazon Prime and I have never been so disappointed in the apparent build quality of a watch. And I've owned my share of $15 Chinese eBay mechanicals....
        Grab a “true” Vostok Amphibian. One made before the 1990s in the USSR. These watches were made like tanks back then. Until the 1970s they were actually only available through military supply depots to Soviet and Warsaw Pact naval personal and were physically marked as such on the back. So they remained true to their proletariat naval heritage back then and were utilitarian. Made to go diving and do hard manual labor at depth... Designed to just take an incredible beating and be repaired easily if they did break.

        At the end of the 1980s lots of novelty versions began to be made and exported and build quality went down. There is a famous version of this watch made in 1991 with American imagery and celebrating the First Iraq War. An odd ball of a watch seeing that it’s Soviet made with American military imagery on the face for American buyers. That’s why this version has a collectors value... Such novelty versions of this watch were exported all over the world starting with Perestroika. The build quality went even more down after 1991 and the fall of the USSR. Despite this, a thriving community of “modders” developed around this watch which was dirt cheap and exported all over as the iron curtain came down. And soon you had Chinese versions being made with dubious quality due to the popularity of the watch. Vostok itself split into two companies in the late 1990s. Vostok Europe is in Lithuania and makes higher end watches. Russian Vostok also reinvented itself into a brand that is actually more reliable and true to the pre-1990 company but still very affordable. Only the Russian Vostok still makes the Amphibian and I imagine the quality is reasonable. I think a true modern made Vostok Amphibian retails for about $200-250 these days. Despite this, the sketchy flow of new amphibians not made by Vostok is bursting. I’ve seen modern versions that only appear like the original. But movement wise are totally different watches... I’m sure many of these are junk.

        These watches, even in their original state, all have shady winding. You always think you are going to break the watch as you mess with the crown that wobbles all over and feels feather flimsy when unscrewed. The first time you see it, it’s ridiculous, I laughed out loud. When screwed down it’s solid and watertight. The whole thing is actually the way it is because of the novel and cheap way the watch forms a water tight seal... Google the history of how it was designed, it’s interesting and very fitting for the communist origin of the watch which was trying to compete utility wise with western Rolex dive watches for a fraction of the price back in the 60s... Despite my initial concerns, I never have never broken a Soviet made amphibian. Now the odd quirks have become part of the odd charm of these watches.

        But beyond this, the originals are just crazy beaters. For the price, even as vintage, they can’t be beat. You can find a good 1980s or late 1970s vintage version from the USSR for under $100 and they probably have better build quality than the same watch made post-1990.



        This is my 1960s edition ticking away. I own 4 watches dating from before 1970. A 1940 WW2 issued ARSA, a 1941 WW2 issued Elgin, and an early 1960s Poljot Alarm. This trusty Vostok Amphibian keeps the best time of the three easily.
        Last edited by Publius; February 8, 2019, 07:33 AM.

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          #34
          So I went to every department/big box store in my little city-ette and not one of them carried the duro! I finally gave in and got it online. Arrived today. My first impressions are very positive. As some said, the strap isn't even that bad--although I am thinking of putting a canvas strap on it (and brand recommendations)? I think I'll get a timex eventually (maybe when I get the itch for a chrono) but right now I'm quite happy with the duro. Thanks for the replies.

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            #35
            Originally posted by SwiftToole View Post
            So I went to every department/big box store in my little city-ette and not one of them carried the duro! I finally gave in and got it online. Arrived today. My first impressions are very positive. As some said, the strap isn't even that bad--although I am thinking of putting a canvas strap on it (and brand recommendations)? I think I'll get a timex eventually (maybe when I get the itch for a chrono) but right now I'm quite happy with the duro. Thanks for the replies.
            barton makes a good, reasonably priced canvas strap. If you want to step up fromt here, i really like my Helm canvas strap. Only one size and only 3 colors but its a good strap. Much thicker than the barton.

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              #36
              For roughly $220, why not consider the Seiko SKX007 or the Seiko SKX013?

              https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/se...e-propositionn

              Personally, I can't stand the loud tick that most Timex models possess.

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                #37
                Originally posted by rd27 View Post
                For roughly $220, why not consider the Seiko SKX007 or the Seiko SKX013?

                https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/se...e-propositionn

                Personally, I can't stand the loud tick that most Timex models possess.
                pretty sizable jump up from the price range of his original options. In that range you have several to choose from. and once you get away from the brass plated cases, the tick pretty much goes away. I have the new 3gmt and cant hear it. I have to put my weekender in a drawer under clothes or it bugs me when I try to go to sleep. This one stays out int he watch box with all of my other watches.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by idvsego View Post
                  I have to put my weekender in a drawer under clothes or it bugs me when I try to go to sleep.
                  Glad to know I'm not the only one who has to do this!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DocDave View Post
                    Glad to know I'm not the only one who has to do this!
                    oh man, they drive me nuts in a quiet room. I only wear them when I mught break them. I mean, I am not trying to break them, I just mean if I break a watch, I would rather it be one of them.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by idvsego View Post
                      oh man, they drive me nuts in a quiet room. I only wear them when I mught break them. I mean, I am not trying to break them, I just mean if I break a watch, I would rather it be one of them.
                      I hear ya. I break out my weekender, funnily enough, on weekends when I'm messing around and it might break. The wife has a weekender too and I'm forever putting her watch in a drawer too. For some reason the ticking doesn't bother her at night.

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                        #41
                        What's funny is I wore a Timex as my daily for many years during and after college and never had an issue with the loud ticking - because I would wear the watch to sleep, and it would be buried under the covers where I couldn't hear it.

                        It was really only when I started to own and wear multiple watches that I would leave a Timex out in the room somewhere and get freaked out by the ticking noise....
                        Ben

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by DocDave View Post
                          I hear ya. I break out my weekender, funnily enough, on weekends when I'm messing around and it might break. The wife has a weekender too and I'm forever putting her watch in a drawer too. For some reason the ticking doesn't bother her at night.
                          They are actually great for hiking. Toss a weekender on a perlon and you have a super light weight time keeper.

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                            #43
                            Tangential question for the forum members: If you aren't really going DIVING, but plan on just SWIMMING with your watch on, how much water resistance do you need?

                            My inexpensive sport watches include a Timex Expedition Scout and a Seiko SND309P (like the one in the photo below.) The Seiko dial says "100M". I don't think that I'd trust it to go scuba diving, but will it be okay swimming? It wasn't expensive enough to stress about if something were to happen to it.

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                              #44
                              I took a timex weekender to the Dominican republic for a...wait for it...weekend trip. Wore it in the pool and ocean every day. No issues. I don't think I would do that again though. If it has 50m wr I will swim in it.


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                                #45
                                Good article on water resistance for watches:

                                https://www.govbergwatches.com/blog/...ce-damage/?amp

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