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    #16
    Originally posted by thedrake View Post
    You are being ridiculous.

    Also, you should not do this to other people. If you see someone dressed in such a way that makes you think, wow they look gay. Stop yourself. First off, it does not matter to you if someone is gay. Second, there is no one gay look and you should not gauge someones sexuality solely on their clothes.

    If you like them, buy them. If they look shitty on you, return them.
    I think you're confused on the reason I'm asking this. I think we can all agree that there are certain styles nowadays are targeted more for gay people. I was asking to see if anyone thought these maybe fell into that category. Because from my experience gay men tend to wear more flashy and skin-showing clothing than straight men. This has nothing to do with me being homophobic

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      #17
      Originally posted by robottawa View Post
      Yeah, what's wrong with people you don't know assuming you're gay? Are you afraid a gay man might try to flirt with you and you will be too nervous to say that you're straight?

      They're flashy and very short, but some people can pull them off. I'm sure there are quite a few gay men who wouldn't look good in them, actually. But most people who think about whether or not an article of clothing will make them look gay would probably tease you about them because of their own insecurities. The question is whether you have those same insecurities or care about what those kinds of people would think.
      I would not want to wear an article of clothing that is more geared/marketed towards gay men. This is simply because I personally would not feel comfortable wearing something knowing that it's designed to be for a specific group of people of which I am not a member of, that is just my personal opinion. From my experience gay men TEND to like wearing more skin-showing pieces of clothing than straight men. I wanted to see if anyone on this forum could give me insight as to whether they think this is perfectly fine for any man to wear OR if they think maybe this is in fact something that is targeted more so for gay men

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        #18
        This wouldn't really make most people in the NY area blink an eye. YMMV if you're in a less progressive area. Not sure if you'll get much more than that. You can't predict how people will judge you overall.

        As [MENTION=14167]julius12[/MENTION] mentioned, these look a little baggy for what I'd expect from that inseam. They almost remind me more of kickboxing shorts vs. swimtrunks, but could just be the picture (could easily fit well IRL). I also tend to prefer patterns or solids (vs. a picture/scene) style, but that's just personal preference. I don't think the above are particularly geared toward gay wearers vs. others.

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          #19
          Originally posted by hornsup84 View Post
          This wouldn't really make most people in the NY area blink an eye. YMMV if you're in a less progressive area. Not sure if you'll get much more than that. You can't predict how people will judge you overall.

          As [MENTION=14167]julius12[/MENTION] mentioned, these look a little baggy for what I'd expect from that inseam. They almost remind me more of kickboxing shorts vs. swimtrunks, but could just be the picture (could easily fit well IRL). I also tend to prefer patterns or solids (vs. a picture/scene) style, but that's just personal preference. I don't think the above are particularly geared toward gay wearers vs. others.
          Thank you for the insight, I was planning on wearing these in Clearwater Beach, Florida, not sure if they're more progressive or conservative there

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            #20
            Originally posted by Brandonlorenzen View Post
            Thank you for the insight, I was planning on wearing these in Clearwater Beach, Florida, not sure if they're more progressive or conservative there
            No personal experience there, but imagine you'll have a variety of folks wearing all sorts of stuff (families, younger/teens/college scene, etc.), so I doubt you'll be alone or stand out relative to any one of those various groups. They'll definitely call a bit more attention to yourself relative to more basic/longer shorts, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

            I'd also stick to relatively basic/solid other items with it, lest you get too busy on your outfit as a whole. Statement pieces are great, but too many at once gets garbled.

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              #21
              Originally posted by julius12 View Post
              Let's be real for a second and stop being overly PC. Some guys don't like chunky cardigans coz it makes them look old, and it just so happens that most old guys prefer that garment (or at least that's how they're portrayed in movies). It doesn't mean they hate or look down on old people, they just don't want to project that image. For me, despite being considered a classic, I wouldn't wear a leather perfecto biker jacket. It gives off a rocker/biker image and that's just not me, so I go for a cafe racer instead. It doesn't mean I hate rockers or bikers. It's the same thing with avoiding styles that most gay guys go for, like short shorts. I have several gay friends, and have hung out with them where I was the only straight guy, but I don't wanna dress like them.
              I agree with this. If someone posted a pic of a Filson Mackinaw Jacket in buffalo plaid and asked if people would assume he was a lumberjack and wanted, in good faith, an honest assessment, no one would say "dude, who cares, wear what you want" or suggest it's a troll post. He is asking about the signals that a particular item may send, which is what we do here. All. The. Time. In fact, I've seen people here make the explicit claim that they care about fashion primarily because of the what garments say about the wearer. But in this case, a guy wishes to not convey a particular signal, in good faith, because that signal would not accurately reflect him and he's accused of being homophobic or gay himself (as if it's an insult, which is very ironic).

              Enough with the virtue signaling, guys.

              Edit because it just occurred to me: The responses here are all the more frustrating given the recent thread on a James Dean article in which someone essentially accused the author of willfully whitewashing Dean's sexuality by failing to mention it due to Dean's style and sexuality being inextricably linked. Are style and sexuality linked or not? If so, can we have a grown-up discussion about it? Are we able to ask questions? Is that answer conditional on the identity of the person asking? Which is it guys?
              Last edited by Burner; November 27, 2018, 05:08 PM.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Brandonlorenzen View Post
                I am worried they might convey to others around me that I am homosexual.
                You are sad.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by JT10000 View Post
                  You are sad.
                  No, he's gay, absolutely elated.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Burner View Post
                    I agree with this. If someone posted a pic of a Filson Mackinaw Jacket in buffalo plaid and asked if people would assume he was a lumberjack and wanted, in good faith, an honest assessment, no one would say "dude, who cares, wear what you want" or suggest it's a troll post. He is asking about the signals that a particular item may send, which is what we do here. All. The. Time. In fact, I've seen people here make the explicit claim that they care about fashion primarily because of the what garments say about the wearer. But in this case, a guy wishes to not to convey a particular signal, in good faith, because that signal would not accurately reflect him and he's accused of being homophobic or gay himself (as if it's an insult, which is very ironic).

                    Enough with the virtue signaling, guys.
                    I guess I may be blind to some of this becuase I live in Atlanta where we have a high LGBTQ community that is strangely diverse...so there isnt as much of a "homosexual" look here.

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                      #25
                      I've never cared for long swim trunks.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Evenflow View Post
                        I've never cared for long swim trunks.
                        Same, I would wear those short shorts, but I'm only 5'6" so those would actually look proportionally normal on me.

                        The bigger concern than "looking gay" would be looking European.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Burner View Post
                          I agree with this. If someone posted a pic of a Filson Mackinaw Jacket in buffalo plaid and asked if people would assume he was a lumberjack and wanted, in good faith, an honest assessment, no one would say "dude, who cares, wear what you want" or suggest it's a troll post. He is asking about the signals that a particular item may send, which is what we do here. All. The. Time. In fact, I've seen people here make the explicit claim that they care about fashion primarily because of the what garments say about the wearer. But in this case, a guy wishes to not convey a particular signal, in good faith, because that signal would not accurately reflect him and he's accused of being homophobic or gay himself (as if it's an insult, which is very ironic).

                          Enough with the virtue signaling, guys.

                          Edit because it just occurred to me: The responses here are all the more frustrating given the recent thread on a James Dean article in which someone essentially accused the author of willfully whitewashing Dean's sexuality by failing to mention it due to Dean's style and sexuality being inextricably linked. Are style and sexuality linked or not? If so, can we have a grown-up discussion about it? Are we able to ask questions? Is that answer conditional on the identity of the person asking? Which is it guys?
                          For what it's worth, I would also think it's dumb to worry about looking like a lumberjack for wearing buffalo plaid if you otherwise liked the shirt. It seems like his preference for the shorts is going to be determined by whether it "looks gay" more than if he likes them. That's dumb, in my opinion.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nandyn View Post
                            Same, I would wear those short shorts, but I'm only 5'6" so those would actually look proportionally normal on me.

                            The bigger concern than "looking gay" would be looking European.

                            Ha. My wife actually made the European comment too.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Burner View Post
                              I agree with this. If someone posted a pic of a Filson Mackinaw Jacket in buffalo plaid and asked if people would assume he was a lumberjack and wanted, in good faith, an honest assessment, no one would say "dude, who cares, wear what you want" or suggest it's a troll post. He is asking about the signals that a particular item may send, which is what we do here. All. The. Time. In fact, I've seen people here make the explicit claim that they care about fashion primarily because of the what garments say about the wearer. But in this case, a guy wishes to not convey a particular signal, in good faith, because that signal would not accurately reflect him and he's accused of being homophobic or gay himself (as if it's an insult, which is very ironic).

                              Enough with the virtue signaling, guys.

                              Edit because it just occurred to me: The responses here are all the more frustrating given the recent thread on a James Dean article in which someone essentially accused the author of willfully whitewashing Dean's sexuality by failing to mention it due to Dean's style and sexuality being inextricably linked. Are style and sexuality linked or not? If so, can we have a grown-up discussion about it? Are we able to ask questions? Is that answer conditional on the identity of the person asking? Which is it guys?
                              One difference is that lumberjacks are not a segment of society which has been historically oppressed, criminalized, treated as either non-existent (at best) or as aberrations deserving of disgust, scorn, abuse, even outright torture and execution. There is also the obvious difference that "lumberjack" is an occupation and "gay" is a romantic/sexual orientation - there is a way to look like a lumberjack, because lumberjacks actually dress a particular way as part of their occupation. There is not a way to "look like" a gay person, because gay people all dress however the heck they want, and unless you're at a pride parade or a leather bar, that's pretty much the same as anyone else. If you think gay men all dress over-the-top flamboyant and body conscious in their style, then I suspect you probably haven't (knowingly) interacted with a lot of ordinary gay men in your life and are gleaning your "knowledge" of gay men from shallow TV tropes and stereotypes.

                              How's this. Try "I personally think (insert innocuous clothing item here) is very stylish. However, I am worried (insert innocuous clothing item here) might convey to others around me that I am a Jew." See if you still think it's such a harmless, "good faith" question. Ask yourself why anyone would care about "looking like" a Jew, or what a person must believe about Jewish people or the way that Jewish people are or ought to be treated that they would be fearful of being mistaken for one.
                              Ben

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                                #30
                                What if a black guy says he doesn't want to wear baggy jeans, sneakers, hoodies, and bling coz he doesn't want to look like a rapper or a banger from the hood. Is that ok then coz he's black? Or do we assume he hates his own race?

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