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  • TheManJournals
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    Originally posted by JBarwick View Post
    I got my Higgins Mill via eBay and am happy with them. I paid $150 and was able to see pics of the actual boots before buying. This is the only way I am buying AEs from here on out.
    I own five pairs of AEs including a Higgins Mill and all are from ebay costing between $110 & $140. Only issues I face ordering from ebay are the shipping and occasional customs, as I am living in Canada.

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  • Geo
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    Originally posted by .brian. View Post
    What's the deal with the AE that are part of the Nordstrom sale? I have never heard of any of the models before, and they are not listed on the AE website?

    Ex: https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/allen-e...FMen&color=tan


    https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/allen-e...rown%20leather
    AE always makes one or two models exclusive to Nordstrom. The Clifton was a popular one that comes to mind. They're usually the same or better quality than other made in USA AEs.

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  • 3piece
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    Originally posted by LesserBlackDog View Post
    Finally got a response to my email about my refund. I was told I would have my refund by the end of the day 11/7/18. It is now 11/9/18 and I still have no refund.
    Speaking of unresponsiveness, I sent a message via online form to uniqlo to inquire my order. Message sent 10/29; got a reply on 11/9. Perhaps all these retailers outsource their customer service to the same party?

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  • .brian.
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    What's the deal with the AE that are part of the Nordstrom sale? I have never heard of any of the models before, and they are not listed on the AE website?

    Ex: https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/allen-e...FMen&color=tan

    https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/allen-e...rown%20leather

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  • Shade
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    Originally posted by JBarwick View Post
    I got my Higgins Mill via eBay and am happy with them. I paid $150 and was able to see pics of the actual boots before buying. This is the only way I am buying AEs from here on out.
    Agreed. The risk/reward is definitely worth it, and usually there are pictures to go by. The price point is much better and with Paypal and most sellers, it actually feels safer than going through AE imo (sadly).

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  • .brian.
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    Nice! Bookmarked those sites.

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  • 3piece
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    Originally posted by LesserBlackDog View Post
    Finally got a response to my email about my refund. I was told I would have my refund by the end of the day 11/7/18. It is now 11/9/18 and I still have no refund.
    I would do a chargeback. If I'm feeling nice, I would write an email today and give them deadline until end of 11/3 and tell them I'd do a chargeback if there's no money in the bank when I wake up on Wednesday.

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  • JBarwick
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    Originally posted by Shade View Post
    Wow [MENTION=2341]LesserBlackDog[/MENTION] , that is so unsat. I was planning on ordering a pair of Higgs, but I am now going to look elsewhere. I don't need that kind of customer service in my life. If I get a pair, I will just look at eBay or some other avenue .
    I got my Higgins Mill via eBay and am happy with them. I paid $150 and was able to see pics of the actual boots before buying. This is the only way I am buying AEs from here on out.

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  • mebejoseph
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    Originally posted by AlejandroLopez View Post
    I've never been a fan of Allen Edmonds as whenever I've considered purchasing from them I find myself shelling out extra for something better like Alden or Carmina. Now as I look to expand my shoe collection beyond a longwing, chukka, and heavy boot, I can't see myself opting for AE over less expensive brands like Meermin or the higher end brands I mentioned, doubly so given the change in ownership and downturn in quality and service.

    I'd suggest making AE a thrift/eBay only option. AE is by far the easiest to get quality brand on the secondary market. Hell, there are some flawless Daltons on eBay right now for $200-300 that are calling my name and I wear the most popular size there is!

    Long-term, I think AE will go the way of Bonobos as a brand that built a legitimate reputation on quality, service, and ethical labor practices before gradually cutting back on all three, leaving their price points unchanged, and pocketing the profit all while lying to consumers about their standards. As with Bonobos, getting sold to an entity that in no way reflects the brand's original reputation and values can only lead to AE continuing its downward spiral of moving production to the cheapest overseas factories and cannibalizing its own legacy with bloated product lines and price points that no longer match the quality of the product.

    I suppose my point here is that as consumers in the decidedly niche market of quality menswear, we have rare and significant power on an individual level. If AE wants to keep gradually moving its production to the Dominican Republic while doing the bare minimum to have a "Made in the USA" label that indicates little in the way of quality, then we can tell them to kindly fuck off and take our business to brands that deserve to be supported by people invested in the standards and practices that go into the final product.
    Agree.

    I'm guessing you're aware of:

    https://www.jfitzpatrickfootwear.com/

    and

    https://www.cobbler-union.com/

    So, I'll just post those as a reminder of a couple of up and coming young companies. I've received excellent service from both and love the shoes.

    In regard to the shoes I purchased from Cobbler Union, which I got on a sale for about 60% off ($150 for a $400 shoe), someone emailed with a photo before they shipped, pointed out a slight blemish, told me they were the last shoes in my size, and asked if I still wanted them.

    That's great customer service in my book!

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  • Shade
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    Wow [MENTION=2341]LesserBlackDog[/MENTION] , that is so unsat. I was planning on ordering a pair of Higgs, but I am now going to look elsewhere. I don't need that kind of customer service in my life. If I get a pair, I will just look at eBay or some other avenue .

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  • LesserBlackDog
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    Finally got a response to my email about my refund. I was told I would have my refund by the end of the day 11/7/18. It is now 11/9/18 and I still have no refund.

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  • JeremyDRintoul
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    I really love the look of the new Spier and Mackay shoes. As a fellow Canadian, I totally feel the reluctance to pull the trigger on something from the States without a strong guarantee that it will be worth what I pay for it. Unfortunately I have EEE feet so finding anything remotely good looking in my size from Canadian retailers is super hard. Does anyone know what ordering Meermin is like from Canada? They have a small line of EEE shoes on the Hiro last.

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  • DocDave
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    Originally posted by LesserBlackDog View Post
    Welp. I have defended AE and given them the benefit of the doubt since they were acquired by Caleres. No more.
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    Well this is disappointing. I was pondering purchasing some shoes thanks to Joe's posting on the main page. But the gamble of having the shoes shipped to Canada and then the quality not being there is worrisome. Joe has done a review on Spier and Mackay's shoes so perhaps it is time to give a fellow Canadian company a try.

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  • AlejandroLopez
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    Originally posted by Domino View Post
    Has Bonobos actually dropped in quality, or is this just an assumption based on their having been bought out by Wal-mart?
    I wore Bonobos back when they were made in the US and have tried on their stuff twice since they moved production overseas, the most recent time being last year. The difference in the quality of the stitching and construction is easily seen/felt and the material feels much cheaper too. I love how their pants fit, but at $98 and up they're nowhere close to justifying the price point compared to their competitors.

    Further, while Bonobos' sales numbers aren't public, industry estimates have them at $100 million in sales annually. You can't move that much ready-to-wear product in that many styles at those price points without significant sacrifices in quality, the numbers won't be profitable otherwise. And Bonobos has been declining in quality ever since they halted US manufacturing, primarily because of pressure from VC investors squeezing them to raise sales and profits. This trend of declining quality for Bonobos actually has nothing to do with Wal-Mart since rather than target manufacturing it instead slashed worker benefits once the sale went through. Bonobos and fellow OG web retail clothing darling Nasty Gal have become something of a cautionary tale for the next generation of web-focused retail clothing startups, which is expounded on quite well in this article https://www.fastcompany.com/40483034...e-anti-bonobos

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  • Domino
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    Has Bonobos actually dropped in quality, or is this just an assumption based on their having been bought out by Wal-mart?

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