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    Massdrop Carmina Captoe Oxfords

    Just got an email about this from massdrop.

    https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdro...-brogue-oxford

    For anyone who's been looking for a pair of captoes or wants to try out Carmina, this is a higher quality version of AE fifth ave for a tiny bit more $ ($350): cap placement is more balanced (imo), leather is equal or slightly better quality, JR sole is durable and hardwearing, and comes with Carmina shoe trees which are great. The Rain last is one of Carmina's more common and popular lasts, and is on the slightly wider side. Downside is that you're taking a gamble on sizing, and I'm not sure what MD's return / exchange policy is.

    random note: I think it technically is not an Adelaide oxford, since an Adelaide oxford has no break between the vamp and the quarter.
    Last edited by Token; May 9, 2017, 05:33 PM.
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    #2
    This is a great deal. Rain is my favorite last, just enough edge that makes it look much better than the AE super traditional 5 last without being inappropriate for interviews. Rain also fits my slightly high instep perfectly. Leather and build quality is superior to AE imo and it comes with high quality shoe trees. $350 is a great price and I'd pick up a brown pair if I needed another pair of shoes. Marron is also the perfect shade of mid brown imo, similar to the bourbon but much more even.

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      #3
      Outstanding deal for very high quality shoes (especially with trees!) in a great last, as Scofield said.

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        #4
        Just a shame they only cater to people with one certain foot width.
        https://www.professorhorseyhead.com

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          #5
          Thanks for the headsup! Excited.
          Best,
          Paul

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            #6
            How do I turn this down?

            It's a great deal with shoe trees included
            You can never have enough shoes

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              #7
              My gosh those are beautiful! The wife might shoot me if I surpass her in footwear count though.

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                #8
                Originally posted by armedferret View Post
                Just a shame they only cater to people with one certain foot width.
                Is your fear they are too narrow ?
                You can never have enough shoes

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MNJ83 View Post
                  Is your fear they are too narrow ?
                  The opposite actually. Too wide. I'm a 9.5B brannock. "standard" width shoes just don't cut it. Far too much slip. I can get away with it in certain boots (like the Sturgis and Shaker Heights from AE, for example) and HAVE to live with it for other things like running shoes (which can actually be snugged down quite nicely I've found, at least a couple brands) and my combat boots for day-to-day stuff (cause dudes don't wear ladies' boots. purriod.) but for dress shoes and the like, I haven't found a Carmina offering that really works. Everything's made for a D-width foot.

                  Have tried numerous models from a stockist in Philly.
                  https://www.professorhorseyhead.com

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by armedferret View Post
                    The opposite actually. Too wide. I'm a 9.5B brannock. "standard" width shoes just don't cut it. Far too much slip. I can get away with it in certain boots (like the Sturgis and Shaker Heights from AE, for example) and HAVE to live with it for other things like running shoes (which can actually be snugged down quite nicely I've found, at least a couple brands) and my combat boots for day-to-day stuff (cause dudes don't wear ladies' boots. purriod.) but for dress shoes and the like, I haven't found a Carmina offering that really works. Everything's made for a D-width foot.

                    Have tried numerous models from a stockist in Philly.
                    Oh, I see. Sorry about that. Fortunately you've got Alden, AE, and some English shoes that will work for your needs .
                    You can never have enough shoes

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                      #11
                      agreed. C&J is out though, too, and that is rather unfortunate (unless I want to spend around $1500 for bespoke, and frankly, no. I don't. ). Alden, eh. That's still up in the air. I went to the DC store a while back to try and get fitted and the gentleman that was working seemed quite put off that someone would try to get fitted instead of just buying something from the shelf and hoping it fits.

                      Would love a pair of Indys at some point, but their shell is out for me too.

                      I'll always have AE though I suppose.
                      https://www.professorhorseyhead.com

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                        #12
                        Don't give up on Alden though. You may get hooked once you try them.
                        You can never have enough shoes

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MNJ83 View Post
                          Don't give up on Alden though. You may get hooked once you try them.
                          I realized I never replied to your comment about the Alden x J. Crew long wing. Two things:

                          1. I do intend to get it one day. But $587 is a huge amount of money for me. I will need to save it for a special occasion. With a bit of luck, I'll have two such occasions in the middle of 2018 (my 40th birthday and promotion + tenure), and can get myself it for one of them and depending on funds a Carmina for the other. Most of the time, though, other expenses - especially now that my wife and I are homeowners - make spending that amount on a pair of shoes not really feasible, which is why I've stuck to AE so far.
                          2. Yes, it's not by any means identical to the walnut Strand. But they are similar in the two most important respects: both are shades of light brown/tan, and both are heavily brogued. Sure, one's an oxford, and the other a derby, one's a half brogue and the other a long-wing, and one's got a double sole, and the other doesn't. Even so, I'd be willing to bet that most people would struggle to tell them apart. Not you or I. But most people.

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                            #14
                            I went to the Carmina store in Barcelona while I was there and couldn't get ANYTHING to fit me (I mean they fit, but certainly not comfortably). The sales lady also hardly spoke english, and my spanish is so-so...the first question she also asked was if I knew the cost of their shoes. In AE I wear 11.5E, so I'm not super wide, but maybe my feet were swollen from the flying/walking. They have a beautiful selection though.

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                              #15
                              someone over in reddit has receive a samples of the shoes and he did a review as well

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwel...ir_massdrop_x/

                              album is here:
                              http://imgur.com/a/FQLK0

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