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  • Originally posted by GinghamKing View Post
    The used PAMS I'm seeing are between 5-7k alone.

    As far as Omega, I'm not a fan of the brand. To me it looks like a Rolex knock-off
    The first thing I found was $4,100 on a quick google search for a very nice condition 005 from a reputable online seller (actually where I bought my Rolex a couple years back). I'd look more if you're seeing $5-7k for a retail $4,700-5,000 watch.

    Retention also isn't just about how much it loses instantly 'driven off the lot', but also how much they hold value over longer periods of time. Rolex has a deep vintage or pre-vintage/used market, Panerai less so. Used pricing also changes depending on the model, even within brands, so it's something you need to look into and not rush through if you want to find a decent deal.

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    • Quintessential beater today. Skx007 on a tropic rubber strap.

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      • Originally posted by idvsego View Post
        Quintessential beater today. Skx007 on a tropic rubber strap.

        Strap looks great with the watch! May I ask what brand? I would love to grab a rubber strap.

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        • Thanks. I bought the watch second and and it came with it. I know that geckota and ofrie both have tropic straps though. This one looks good but it's actually kind of cheap feeling. I want to upgrade.

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            • Any recommendation on buying a hand wound Panerai vs. Automatic? About a $2500 difference retail-wise

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              • Originally posted by GinghamKing View Post
                Any recommendation on buying a hand wound Panerai vs. Automatic? About a $2500 difference retail-wise
                Get an auto, much more practical. Any reason you'd want a manual other than cost?
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                • If you can remind yourself to wind the manual every day, I don't see that there is any serious practical advantage to an automatic. Plenty of people enjoy the daily ritual of winding their watch, and this is part of the charm of owning something like a Speedmaster Professional or Hamilton Khaki hand-wind. If a hand-wind Panerai is $2,500 that seems like the obvious way to go.
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                  • Originally posted by Token View Post
                    Get an auto, much more practical. Any reason you'd want a manual other than cost?
                    It's just less expensive. I'm not a big watch connusier, I wear what I think looks nice, not overly concerned with movement etc, but I do want something that has some flash-hence why I like panerai

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                    • Originally posted by GinghamKing View Post
                      It's just less expensive. I'm not a big watch connusier, I wear what I think looks nice, not overly concerned with movement etc, but I do want something that has some flash-hence why I like panerai
                      Got it. Since you're not concerned with the technical aspect go with the auto. The benefits of a manual wind in my opinion are: 1) the potential for a thinner watch 2) a better looking movement and 3) lower cost.

                      1) Panerai is a big watch, not exactly going for sleek and understated to begin with so a potential few mm thinner doesn't really matter.
                      2) In general for watches with a display back, a manual movement looks better because you don't have the rotor blocking half the movement. If you were getting an ALS chronograph or something then that's a different story, but there isn't really anything special about Panerai's finishing on their movements.
                      3). $2500 difference is not trivial, but considering you're in the market for a Panerai in the first place, I assume that it's something that you can accept.

                      Conclusion is that I don't think that you would get much value from the benefits of a manual watch, so you're weighing $2,500 against the hassle of having the wind the watch every (other) morning. If I were in your shoes, I'd spend the extra $2,500 to get an auto; that way it doesn't become a chore to just wear my Panerai.
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                      • I love my Hamilton Khaki King ($15 in very bad condition) and thank god one of my hobbies is watch repair. Two evening later and a solid hour for polishing I have a watch that went from not running to +/-2 SECONDS a day.

                        Last edited by dbals; March 2, 2017, 04:09 PM.
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                        • [MENTION=16272]dbals[/MENTION] that's a steal!

                          I just received my newest addition. I actually bought a watch preloaded but it was 90% what I wanted and I was feeling lazy...

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                          • $15 automatic from china. I bought it off eBay and it's been working fine for about 1 yr now. I haven't really timed it, but it seems accurate enough.


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                            • Originally posted by Token View Post
                              Got it. Since you're not concerned with the technical aspect go with the auto. The benefits of a manual wind in my opinion are: 1) the potential for a thinner watch 2) a better looking movement and 3) lower cost.

                              1) Panerai is a big watch, not exactly going for sleek and understated to begin with so a potential few mm thinner doesn't really matter.
                              2) In general for watches with a display back, a manual movement looks better because you don't have the rotor blocking half the movement. If you were getting an ALS chronograph or something then that's a different story, but there isn't really anything special about Panerai's finishing on their movements.
                              3). $2500 difference is not trivial, but considering you're in the market for a Panerai in the first place, I assume that it's something that you can accept.

                              Conclusion is that I don't think that you would get much value from the benefits of a manual watch, so you're weighing $2,500 against the hassle of having the wind the watch every (other) morning. If I were in your shoes, I'd spend the extra $2,500 to get an auto; that way it doesn't become a chore to just wear my Panerai.
                              Thank you all for your help. After much consideration and research I opted for the classic PAM000 , it's a 2015 model so still very new and got it for a great price. It's got a 56h power reserve so will have to wind every other day, but excited about the purchase. Will post photos next week

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                              • Honestly not sure why anyone would think winding a watch is a hassle. My brother missed winding his Nomos so much after he sold it that he ended up buying a Speedmaster in part just for the hand-winding. I frankly give a few winds to most of my automatic watches when I put them on, just to make sure they've got enough oomph in case I'm about to go sit at a desk for a while or something.
                                Ben

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