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    I would just condition and brush them. Specifically, I would use renovateur. I scuff my shoes regularly, it is no big deal. Eventually, the scuffs all even out as a patina.

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      Great advice, but it's not that costly. The shoe trees aren't cheap, but they are essential and cost less than 10% of the expenditure on the shoes. The rest is $10 or less each. It does mount up, but the shoe trees, the cloths, and the brush should last a good long while.

      [MENTION=14386]Danny[/MENTION]: Sorry this has proved such a stressful experience! I hope our advice has at least been useful. For now, I'd say enjoy your holiday, don't worry about the shoes too much, and wear the casual pair I see in the background whenever you can until you get back!

      Originally posted by devastitis View Post
      Did you get oil on them?

      You might have to hit them with a complete conditioning and shine, but it can be somewhat costly. You will need leather conditioner, bourbon shoe polish, a pair of shoe trees, a cloth or two, and one horsehair brush.

      Here's a good youtube link on how to care for your shoes. This is the basics of a condition and polish.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCO8XtLT-1I

      And this one, if you're really serious, and got some coin to spend. This one is ideally a few times a year.
      https://www.hangerproject.com/shoe-c...e-shine-guide/

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        [MENTION=13548]srlclark[/MENTION] and everyone else who has commented: Your advice has been invaluable. I'm so appreciative of all your help, and I'm really happy with the AE's. I'm glad I had the benefit of your cumulative knowledge and was convinced to pay a bit more for lasting and noticeable quality.

        While all the individual components will add up a bit, I see these items as part of a long term investment in all of my shoes.

        Here's what i'm planning to get:
        Shoe trees (Nordstrom rack) - ~$13
        Kiwi Horsehair shoe brush - $7.00
        Quard Shoe cleaning cloth (Amazon) - $5.50
        Allen Edmonds premium shoe polish, bourbon (is this the best color to get?) - $9.00
        Total: ~$34.00

        Do I need shoe conditioner? If so, what brand is reccomended? I know people on here like using Sapir, but that seems pricy to me.

        I'm eager to get these stunners looking perfect again. Glad I have you all to point me in the right direction!

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          Originally posted by Danny View Post
          Allen Edmonds premium shoe polish, bourbon (is this the best color to get?) - $9.00
          I would definitely get some bourbon-colored polish to help cover the scuffs. You might also want to eventually pick up some neutral for the whole shoe. I would assume that repeated applications of bourbon polish will begin to mask the burnishing.

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            Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about, too. I assume that the bourbon polish is basically just a medium-brown polish. Some reviewers say that using it will make the shoe duller over time, so that while still medium-brown overall, it lack the depth achieved by the combination of the walnut with the black. I wonder what the effect of trying to replicate AE's process would be, e.g. using walnut polish three times out of five and then using black polish twice out of five. Or four and one, maybe. I think some store associates suggesting occasionally buffing the shoe with a cloth used for black shoes, but I think that would just darken the shoe.

            With any luck AE is currently working on a shoe in which the bourbon color is achieved through dye and for which there are no problems about using bourbon polish.

            Incidentally, isn't oxblood also achieved by burnishing a lighter color on the black burnishing wheel? If so, do you know which color the lighter one is?

            Originally posted by dpark View Post
            I would definitely get some bourbon-colored polish to help cover the scuffs. You might also want to eventually pick up some neutral for the whole shoe. I would assume that repeated applications of bourbon polish will begin to mask the burnishing.

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              [MENTION=14386]Danny[/MENTION]: I don't use Sapir. I use AE conditioner cleaner. The rest sound good but I agree about getting neutral polish, too.

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                Just conditioned and polished a pair of shoes for the first time.

                BEFORE:


                AFTER:


                It's not perfect (you can see a bit of color discrepancy between the overall burbon color and the bourbon polish on the toes), but it's pretty damn good. No one would notice this unless they got on hands and knees to inspect my shoes.

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                  Originally posted by Danny View Post
                  Just conditioned and polished a pair of shoes for the first time.

                  BEFORE:


                  AFTER:


                  It's not perfect (you can see a bit of color discrepancy between the overall burbon color and the bourbon polish on the toes), but it's pretty damn good. No one would notice this unless they got on hands and knees to inspect my shoes.
                  Those look great, good job!

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                    While pristine shoes look nice on the showroom floor, a well-loved pair of shoes will look like they've been worn enough times to fall in love with. You'll get scuffs and creases, you'll get discoloration and your conditioning and polishing won't restore the shoes to like-new appearance. However, with regular wear, regular conditioning and polishing, regular shoe tree use, and keeping them away from really nasty stuff like snowy slush and oils, your shoes will develop something beautiful called a patina. I like the look of your shoes post-scuffs and post-polish better than I liked them brand new.

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                      [MENTION=14949]mmgfarb[/MENTION] thanks!

                      I like the look of your shoes post-scuffs and post-polish better than I liked them brand new
                      I like them better now too... but it's not because of the conditioning/polish. They look better because you can tell that the leather is starting to soften up. When it comes down to it, worn, soft leather always looks better than pristine, hard leather IMHO.

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                        On Saphir Renovateur, I would like to say I use it because it has good coverage and sinks in gradually allowing for even treatment... but that's not really it. I like it because it smells like turpentine instead of the petroleum distillate similar products have. The shoes also don't smell bad after. It's a little thing, but I have unused containers of other products because of smell. (Reminds me... I should try to give some of that away.)

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                          Danny Hello! How are you? I noticed that you have been posting again on occasion - I haven't posted all that often myself in the last 2-3 years, either - so I thought I'd revive this old thread to check in on what you thought of the bourbon Strands, or Allen Edmonds in general, after having the shoes for four and a half years. Do you get much use out of them? Or are they too formal for your purposes in the Pacific Northwest?

                          I saw on another thread that you've got a pair of the Thursday Boot Company's Captains and like them. Could you say more? I haven't tried them yet. But I would highly recommend Beckett Simonon as an affordable alternative to Allen Edmonds.

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                            Originally posted by srlclark View Post


                            To be fair to J&M, their styling tends to be pretty good. There are some clunkers but for the most part, they lowered costs by outsourcing labor, using construction methods that won't hold up for as long (e.g. gluing the soles on rather than using a welt), or using cheaper leather, not by paying less attention to detail on styling. The Conard is a very good-looking shoe. At a higher price point, I think the Hannigan collection are very handsome. By contrast, Cole Haan tends to make some very gaudy shoes.
                            Yeah I bought a pair of their XC series (I think the one I got was the Cody cap toe brogue) mostly for knocking around the neighborhood. They have built in EVA cushioning and (most important for me) removable footbeds so I can fit my orthotics in them. Lugged sole that gets decent traction, but they would be fine for business casual. I'm sure they're glued and the leather is supposedly waterproof so who knows what they did to it to make that happen, but they look pretty good - actually really good - with jeans. I know Ecco and J&M are for geezers with orthopedic issues but the J&M ones are a bit better at hiding the tech and still looking reasonably fashionable. Anyone who knows shoes won't be fooled by them, but the percentage of people who really know shoes anymore is getting smaller and smaller by the day. I expect they'll last a couple years and fall apart but...I knew that going in and for me the comfort is the main thing.

                            I have a couple pairs of Jack Erwins at the office that I leave there and put on when I get in in the morning (or used to in normal times). If I absolutely have to for business purposes I will walk in them but with my history of plantar fasciitis it's asking for a flare up. Some of us need non-trad construction. I wish I could wear those trad shoes and geek out over them but I just can't, except when I'm at the office and the longest walk I do is to the bathroom or a conference room.
                            “Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.” – Mark Twain

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                              The color on them is perfect.

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                                srlclark Hiya! Long time no speak! I'm good and miss participating more on this site - life just gets busy (a wife and three kids later).

                                I still really like my Strands, and I enjoy wearing them when I have an excuse to bust them out... but as you guessed, since I live in the northwest and working in sales for a tech company, they're seldom used. It's nice to know that they aren't likely to fall apart anytime soon, as long as I take care of them between uses. The one thing I'll note is that even after a few years of use, they're not that comfortable. They're billed as dress shoes, so I'm not expecting a slipper, but I've worn these for work conferences and a full day of standing and moderate walking in them is unpleasant. Something to consider for people who would plan to wear them for long periods of time. They've developed a decent patina, but it's less of a big deal than some make it out to be.

                                Here's my current shoe lineup and a couple quick thoughts on each:
                                - Allbirds Wool Runners - the ultimate, comfortable, everyday sneaker. Goes with everything. Like walking on a cloud (as long as you're not walking too far).
                                - Thursday Boot Capitan (old english color) - Color is different than in the picture. Much less purple leaning and more dark brown. These things are PERFECT. Incredible leather quality for the money, and almost as comfortable as a sneaker once you break them in. Literally makes every outfit look a bit more elevated, and they can pretty much go anywhere. Hiking, a nice bar, the office, and everywhere in between - perfect for unpredictable weather or uncertain plans. With some dark denim and almost anything else, they sing. Can't say enough good things about them.
                                - Sorel Ankeny II Boots - While the Thursdays can take a beating, I'd still need to clean them. I needed a pair of boots that I could throw on for walks on muddy trails near my house with the kids, for yard work, for hiking, and even for the snow. Just a solid "do anything", long lasting boot. I initially ordered a pair of Bean Boots, but they weren't as comfortable as I'd hope out of the box, and the fit seemed off. These are way better. Fashionable and low profile enough that they don't scream beater boot or snow boot, but super hardy. I've found myself wearing them way more than I intended. Regular part of my rotation.
                                - Clarks Bushacre II Chukka boots - Because everyone needs a decent pair of chukkas. Love the versatility. On reflection, that seems to be one of my main priorities from footwear.
                                - Nike running shoes - I forget the model. Maybe these. It was mesh and whatever seemed the most talked about online when i looked up "best running shoes". I wear them to workout.
                                - Allen Edmonds Strands - For when I'm getting dressy. See Above. I like that mine aren't in just the standard Walnut color. (Man, my blazers, nice shoes, and suits don't get enough wear given how much time I put into finding the perfect core items)
                                - Allbirds Wool Loungers - AKA Quarantine "house shoes". Lots of studies about how wearing shoes helps you get into "work mode" etc, so I needed some stepped up slippers. These are fantastic. Warm, but not too warm. Comfy sockless or with socks. Enough structure to where they feel like that perfect mix between a slipper and regular shoe. Never realized how awesome it would be to have a slipper-shoe hybrid as the go to inside the house.
                                - Other - I won't get into the less-frequent categories.

                                I'll check out Beckett Simonon if I need another pair! Thanks for the tip!

                                Any items in your footwear rotation that are worth mention (or lavish praise, as is my M.O.)? I'll ask the question to the broader forum as well!

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