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    Anyone have experience with raw denim? I was always curious about how you choose the initial size? With all the pre-shrunk, soak on first wear, never ever soak, wash after six months, I just don't get how you know what size to choose.


    Anyone here involved in raw denim or also curious about getting into it?


    A couple starter guides:

    http://www.denimblog.com/c/forum/thr...411-start-here

    http://www.denimblog.com/c/forum/thr...-raw-dry-denim

    http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-wash-your-raw-denim-jeans

    http://www.authenticforum.com/dry-de...ory-guide.html

    http://www.authenticforum.com/dry-de...ps-tricks.html


    #2


    I dunno... I got some raw selvage jeans from Gap this fall on one of their 40% off sales for like $50. I just got my normal size and they fit fine. I love the way the fabric feels, cool to the touch and very stiff. I haven't washed them yet and they're doing fine.


    I'm not gonna go spend $200 for fancy jeans though.

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      #3


      I've wanted to pick up a pair of gap selvage for little bit now.. waiting for a sale.

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        #4


        Well selvedge and raw aren't particularly linked. Raw can often not be selvedge and vice versa. I suppose it is also fairly common for them to be paired as well though.


        My issue is that people say they tend to shrink when contacting water and then loosen considerably after multiple wears, making it confusing for me to understand what size to start at. Some say size down because it will loosen a lot, others say size up because it will lose a lot when it gets soaked.


        Still confused about it but thanks guys.

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          #5


          I just bought my first pair of Naked & Famous Weird Guys a few weeks ago and they are amazing. I've gotten more compliments in those jeans than any Levi's that I've ever worn (including 514's).


          With all denim, you should size down because they will stretch. You're best bet is to go actually try whatever pair your interested on. If they are tough to button up then that's likely the pair you want. Some like it even to the point where they can not button the jeans all the way up (most of the brands don't use zippers).


          In either case, from my personal experience...all denim stretches. I have 3 pairs of denim and the only one that fits is the N&F pair because I actually sized down 1 where as I typically just buy my normal size. My 514's that used to fit so well are now fairly baggy..

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            #6


            In lieu of starting a new thread, I'll ask here: is it a faux pas to roll the cuff on any jeans besides selvedge? It seems to be, but I don't have any and still want to roll the cuff sometimes. It's as if the point of rolling them is to show the selvedge edge.

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              #7


              My sizing advice is this: Buy a couple of inches longer but the right waist. This works if you do your initial wash in the tub (look it up) and then wear them as they dry. Your body will keep the waist from shrinking and I think you get a better overall fit, esp. with something some 501s which are cut pretty full.


              Oh, and roll up whatever you want. Anybody that would actually snob out on you about non-selvedge is a turd.

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                #8


                You can roll any jeans up, it is just more common in selvedge because it is considered decorative and is a visible seam trait, though these days it does not necessarily mean quality.

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                  #9


                  If you're looking for a slimmer look, I would say go up two in the length and size down 1 in the waist. Put them in the bath tub inside out for 30 minutes in luke warm water (so they don't over shrink and to preserve the indigo in super hot water). Hang them to dry. Once they are moist, but not soaking slip them on and do whatever it takes to button them (i.e. blow every single bit of air out of your lungs and suck in your abdomen like your life depends on it). Once you're all buttoned up you can relax. They will stretch out. After a little bit feel free to hang them up again to finish drying. If you're really scared that they will keep shrinking beyond your hip size put them on every couple of hours until fully dry in the waist. They will fit better (won't suffocate you/your member) after soaking then when you purchased them.


                  Also, DO NOT BEND YOUR KNEES. Otherwise you will end up with horrid knee bulge. This is less of an issue with higher quality denim, but regardless, don't put them on and do squats or anything that will stretch the knee out. Obviously when they are fully dry you can go nuts and it won't matter. Sorry this got to be a bit long, but I wish I would've known everything above when I got my first pair. Hope this helps someone out!

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                    #10


                    ^Thanks to all the above posts guys.

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                      #11


                      I don't know much about denim, but I bought a pair of Lee 101s like 6 months ago, sized down and everything. But they never stretched out. They're massively tight. I wore them at least 15 times and they still feel virginal. My APCs shrunk back when I got those like 2 years ago, and those did stretch out. A shame since I got them in my size and now they fit me big. But these suckers don't seem to stretch. I'm thinking maybe N&F or RRL might be a better option next time.

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                        #12


                        I probably should have included that my experience is limited to Levi's 501 shrink-to-fit jeans.

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                          #13


                          It really depends on what brand you're buying. I'd look into various forums for guidance.


                          http://hypebeast.com/forums/denim/

                          http://supertalk.superfuture.com/

                          http://authenticforum.com/


                          are all some good places to do some reading. Brand sizes vary so by reading other people's experiences and looking at various fits, you can see what will work for you.


                          For example, I have a pair of Uniqlo MIJ Raws that I bought pretty much TTS @ sz 29/32. I bought a pair of APC New Standards awhile back and had to get sz 26 because they are notorious for stretching a ton -- 3 sizes if you're looking for a skinnier fit.


                          Read up and have fun with it! Raw jeans are the best, most comfortable, personalized pair you could ever own.

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                            these are the uniqlos at my 1 year 7 months mark. one soak. no washes

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                              #15


                              @nftmlk Those look great.


                              Thanks for the posts everyone. May jump on this soon.

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