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  • Vanquish
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    Originally posted by tomservo View Post
    This is a perfectly rational approach if you're main goal is to build muscle. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
    Yeah that's my rationale as well. I will change things as needed as progress needs to be made in one area or another. Hoping to keep this up as a routine as my weight has been on a roller coaster ride since high school.

    Originally posted by Creature View Post
    I hear what you're saying, however, I am going to venture that I eat either the same or more than you and I also monitor my pro/carb/fat intake. I have done less than 50g's of carbs/day and over 180g's of carbs/day on this. Pro/fat have tons of options. For carbs, you'll be eating a lot of veggies and sweet potatoes and a piece of fruit before you work out. Get creative with how you cook things.

    #homemadesweetpotatofries
    Definitely lots of options available. There is no right way or wrong way to do something. Just pick something that works for you and stick with it.

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  • Creature
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    Originally posted by Vanquish View Post
    I really enjoyed the post as well. I don't know if I can do anything that drastic as I try to consume my body weight in protein every day. I have been monitoring my intake of carbs to protein to fat ratio more recently lately as I continue my work out gains from the latter half of 2014 into 2015 and hope to continue to eat better and exercise with intensity. I've dropped roughly 30 pounds from my peak weight high a few year ago. Lately it's more about weight training and just focusing more on diet than trying to cut out completely certain items.
    I hear what you're saying, however, I am going to venture that I eat either the same or more than you and I also monitor my pro/carb/fat intake. I have done less than 50g's of carbs/day and over 180g's of carbs/day on this. Pro/fat have tons of options. For carbs, you'll be eating a lot of veggies and sweet potatoes and a piece of fruit before you work out. Get creative with how you cook things.

    #homemadesweetpotatofries

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  • Creature
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    Originally posted by tomservo View Post
    Interesting! I don't have any goals of healthier skin of aches/pain on this, but I do have a chronic shoulder injury that may improve, though I doubt it. I'm also looking at it as a cleanse. Particularly the alcohol part as I recently realized I probably haven't gone without a drink for 30 days since I was 18 or so.

    How have you been navigating lunch at work? That will be the toughest thing for me I think as my lunch hour is pretty sacred.
    I've been making a sweet potato chili and bringing it in. sweet potato, ground beef/turkey, tomatoes, onion, celery, peas, whatever other veggies and spices. I dont mind eating it cold, so I'm good to go. If you would need it hot, just bring it in something that you can heat up.

    The whole 30 tells you not to weigh yourself and take measurements to track progress, but I am. Mainly because i count my macros and hit specific totals, my weight and BF are part of my weekly measurements. Most people do well on this because it makes you eat BETTER carbs, not no carb, or even low carb depending on how you eat.

    One week down for those who started Jan. 1st! Keep it going!

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  • tomservo
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    Originally posted by Creature View Post
    I am doing a whole 30 right now. I typically eat pretty healthy so the only changes I'm making are cutting dairy, legumes and rice/quinoa for the 30 days until I can add them back in. My fiancé did it earlier this year and she had some acne and muscular issues clear up. I'm just hoping it will act as a cleanse for me.
    Interesting! I don't have any goals of healthier skin of aches/pain on this, but I do have a chronic shoulder injury that may improve, though I doubt it. I'm also looking at it as a cleanse. Particularly the alcohol part as I recently realized I probably haven't gone without a drink for 30 days since I was 18 or so.

    How have you been navigating lunch at work? That will be the toughest thing for me I think as my lunch hour is pretty sacred.

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  • tomservo
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    Originally posted by Vanquish View Post
    I really enjoyed the post as well. I don't know if I can do anything that drastic as I try to consume my body weight in protein every day. I have been monitoring my intake of carbs to protein to fat ratio more recently lately as I continue my work out gains from the latter half of 2014 into 2015 and hope to continue to eat better and exercise with intensity. I've dropped roughly 30 pounds from my peak weight high a few year ago. Lately it's more about weight training and just focusing more on diet than trying to cut out completely certain items.
    This is a perfectly rational approach if you're main goal is to build muscle. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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  • Vanquish
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    I really enjoyed the post as well. I don't know if I can do anything that drastic as I try to consume my body weight in protein every day. I have been monitoring my intake of carbs to protein to fat ratio more recently lately as I continue my work out gains from the latter half of 2014 into 2015 and hope to continue to eat better and exercise with intensity. I've dropped roughly 30 pounds from my peak weight high a few year ago. Lately it's more about weight training and just focusing more on diet than trying to cut out completely certain items.

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  • Creature
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    I am doing a whole 30 right now. I typically eat pretty healthy so the only changes I'm making are cutting dairy, legumes and rice/quinoa for the 30 days until I can add them back in. My fiancé did it earlier this year and she had some acne and muscular issues clear up. I'm just hoping it will act as a cleanse for me.

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  • devastitis
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    I've also lost the most body fat doing a combination of intermittent fasting and targeted ketogenic diet. Lots of steak, fish, and chicken, with potatoes and other starches post workout. I also depended on either psyllium husk or Quest Nutrition bars for fiber. I plan on doing it again before spring rolls around as I am planning on going on vacation when the weather warms up and business improves.

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  • Matchbook
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    Originally posted by JBarwick View Post
    This inflammation aspect is what caught my attention. I eat pretty healthy already so something like the Whole30 would not take a lot to change other than coffee after food. I may take out some foods to see if things go away and add them back if not but I am not doing 30 days of cutting a whole lot out.

    Paleo confuses me due to some of the restrictions and then some items they allow.
    Don't overthink the doctrine. It's not all that confusing and fairly simple to follow, if not a bit of a hassle to adhere to just because I feel that food prep takes significantly longer in my opinion...Stay away from processed foods, no grains, no dairy. Eat greens/fruits/meats/berries/nuts. Stick with those general guidelines and that's all you really need to know.

    Originally posted by Brent k View Post
    Cutting carbs out completely is a foolish move for many reasons. We need healthy carbs, not donuts and a loaf of white bread, but healthy carbs to function. Cutting carbs completely get you to lose weight but drastic calorie cutting leads to your metabolism shutting down.
    Cutting carbs and calorie reduction are two separate things. I've followed both the paleo doctrine and the keto doctrine and saw significant decreases in BF % while maintaining muscle mass and strength. Concerning low carb diets, the ketogenic doctrine saw me at about 5% total calorie intake being carbs, the rest being healthy fats and proteins (I went with a 60/35 ratio), and those carbs came primarily from vegetables. Not only that, when I went in for a physical while on the keto doctrine, my blood work and labs came back healthier than I'd ever been on any other dietary doctrine. Additionally, while the initial "break-in" period was a bit rough (you'll feel lethargic as your body gets used to burning fat and fat stores as energy), by week 3 or 4 it was more than manageable. To put it in perspective, I dropped from about 14% BF to around 8-9% BF in around 6-7 weeks with minimal lean mass loss (or closer to none, since I believe I actually got stronger during that period).

    The only reason I stopped either doctrine was that I got lazy (food prep takes too long), and while they're great for cutting fat and completely manageable for maintaining strength, my goals were to get larger and stronger and a Seefood diet is more conducive to gaining mass and strength quickly. Oh, and I like the taste of carbs and bread and stuff.

    Btw, legumes promote inflammation and estrogen production. Not exactly what I'm looking for when it comes to my diet. I still religiously stay away from soy.

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  • tomservo
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    Originally posted by pratyk View Post
    I can't buy into a program which advocates the elimination of legumes or dairy - that's losing out on good, cheap sources of protein.

    I'd rather go the route of Lyle McDonald's programs or Intermittent fasting instead buying into the whole 30 gospel.
    Totally understandable. And I wouldn't do a long term program that eliminates all dairy and legumes. But for me 30 days is worth a try.

    Someone else commented that cutting all carbs is foolish, and I agree with that for your overall diet, but for 30 days it's doable. The idea is to replace those calories by adding more meat and veggies not being on a low calorie diet. I am not a fan of the paleo diet for a number of reasons and I'm not looking to do this long term because I LOVE bread and anything so restrictive will not work long term.

    For me this is more about giving myself restrictions to pay more attention to what I eat overall for a short period of time and use that 30 days to reboot my eating habits. I did this similarly several years back when I went vegan for one month. I had no interest in pursing that life style, though I know many who have and are happy with it. My goal instead was to force myself to take away the "easy" food options. Coming home late from work, exhausted and that Chinese place on the corner is might convenient. It was a great way to force myself to consider my options and pick something healthier. And after a month when I went back to a more normal diet without restrictions I was more selective and more aware of what I wanted to put in my body. I think it's also helpful to accomplish the challenge, doing something difficult can be good for the psyche.

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  • JBarwick
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    Originally posted by Shomas View Post
    I'm doing something similar to the Whole30 as a 6 week challenge via my gym. There are some variations in the program I'm following, but it's very similar. I'm on day 5 and so far, so good. I don't really get cravings for sweets or bread most of the time, so cutting that stuff out isn't too big a burden for me. What's been rougher than I expected is cutting out dairy, which I've never done before, even when I've experimented with very low carb diets.

    One positive benefit that I've noticed is that I haven't felt a nagging elbow tendonitis (golfer's elbow - though I've never golfed) that has bugged me for years. It usually isn't very bad, but it's always present at some low level at least. I can help it by making sure I warm up my shoulders and elbows well before working out. Even then I definitely feel it after pull ups or (especially) chin ups, and on some days it's there with no apparent cause or connection. But I haven't felt it a bit over the last five days and I've done plenty of the exercises that I can rely on to aggravate it. It could be unconnected to the diet - part of the challenge is a daily focus on stretching and mobility work - but a lot of what I've cut out is supposed to promote inflammation, so I'm guessing the dietary changes are contributing at least somewhat.

    In any event, I'm pretty pleased five days in. Good luck to anyone else hopping on board the diet train. If you run across any particularly delicious recipes, let us know.
    This inflammation aspect is what caught my attention. I eat pretty healthy already so something like the Whole30 would not take a lot to change other than coffee after food. I may take out some foods to see if things go away and add them back if not but I am not doing 30 days of cutting a whole lot out.

    Paleo confuses me due to some of the restrictions and then some items they allow.

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  • Kooky
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    Originally posted by Kittiwake30 View Post
    My wife is ultra-fit whereas I am active, but a chainsmoking butterball...
    You're doing it right!

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  • Shomas
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    I'm doing something similar to the Whole30 as a 6 week challenge via my gym. There are some variations in the program I'm following, but it's very similar. I'm on day 5 and so far, so good. I don't really get cravings for sweets or bread most of the time, so cutting that stuff out isn't too big a burden for me. What's been rougher than I expected is cutting out dairy, which I've never done before, even when I've experimented with very low carb diets.

    One positive benefit that I've noticed is that I haven't felt a nagging elbow tendonitis (golfer's elbow - though I've never golfed) that has bugged me for years. It usually isn't very bad, but it's always present at some low level at least. I can help it by making sure I warm up my shoulders and elbows well before working out. Even then I definitely feel it after pull ups or (especially) chin ups, and on some days it's there with no apparent cause or connection. But I haven't felt it a bit over the last five days and I've done plenty of the exercises that I can rely on to aggravate it. It could be unconnected to the diet - part of the challenge is a daily focus on stretching and mobility work - but a lot of what I've cut out is supposed to promote inflammation, so I'm guessing the dietary changes are contributing at least somewhat.

    In any event, I'm pretty pleased five days in. Good luck to anyone else hopping on board the diet train. If you run across any particularly delicious recipes, let us know.

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  • redbeardedmike
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    I was also intrigued by the post. I agree that losing whole grains, dairy, and legumes would be the biggest hit to my usual eating style.

    Breakfast is the meal that I have the hardest time coming up with suitable, quick replacements for. Yes, i could fry or scramble eggs, but I usually don't light the stove in the bleary hours.

    I suppose you could just eat a handful of nuts and fruit and call it a day...

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  • greg_s
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    I have to admit, despite my feelings on most of these food related trends (I roll my eyes at all of them), I find myself intrigued. Mostly the ability to then reintroduce types of foods one at a time and see their effect on your body. With some digestive health issues running in my family, it would be nice to know if certain foods play a role in that or not.

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