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    Inspired by the Gals' recent post and my desire to get fit for my wedding and generally not be such a fat fuck, I've decided to try out this thing out and see what I learn. I'm curious if others may be interested in trying this journey as well? Obviously this won't be a "let's all start on this date" endeavor, as we all have different responsibilities and obligations ahead, but if you are interested in starting in the next few weeks or have done it let me know. We can use this thread to share experiences, challenges, recipes etc. Generally just help each other out. If you're not interested in participating but want to watch me catalog my misery, that's cool too.

    What I don't want this thread to become is a debate about the merits of paleo, gluten sensitivity or what have you. The point is, I need to make a change in my life and I think 30 days of a drastic change can help me jump start it. Maybe you do to. Cheers to all.
    Dress for style, live for results.

    #2
    I've been wanting to do whole 30 for a while, but my wife isn't on board. If only I could convince her...I think I just need to make a week's worth of meal plans so she can see the variety...but I would be very interestd to hear about your journey!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by tomservo View Post
      Inspired by the Gals' recent post and my desire to get fit for my wedding and generally not be such a fat fuck, I've decided to try out this thing out and see what I learn. I'm curious if others may be interested in trying this journey as well? Obviously this won't be a "let's all start on this date" endeavor, as we all have different responsibilities and obligations ahead, but if you are interested in starting in the next few weeks or have done it let me know. We can use this thread to share experiences, challenges, recipes etc. Generally just help each other out. If you're not interested in participating but want to watch me catalog my misery, that's cool too.

      What I don't want this thread to become is a debate about the merits of paleo, gluten sensitivity or what have you. The point is, I need to make a change in my life and I think 30 days of a drastic change can help me jump start it. Maybe you do to. Cheers to all.
      This is timely. My wife is ultra-fit whereas I am active, but a chainsmoking butterball so I am about five days into some six-week program she gave me (her subtle way of sending me to fat camp). I don't pretend to understand it but it's intensely protein heavy and there's weights involved.

      I haven't had a carbohydrate in those five days. The first two or three days I had a headache and my cranium felt like a furnace. I thought I was getting sick but suspect it's due to the diet change?

      My biggest fear is having to replace my clothes if I lose too much weight. Completely irrational. I got a major work promotion last year and my first thought was not about the raise in salary but ruing the fact I wouldn't be able to wear my knit ties anymore.

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        #4
        Cutting carbs out completely is a foolish move for many reasons. We need healthy carbs, not donuts and a loaf of white bread, but healthy carbs to function. Cutting carbs completely get you to lose weight but drastic calorie cutting leads to your metabolism shutting down.

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          #5
          I can't buy into a program which advocates the elimination of legumes or dairy - that's losing out on good, cheap sources of protein.

          I'd rather go the route of Lyle McDonald's programs or Intermittent fasting instead buying into the whole 30 gospel.

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            #6
            I have to admit, despite my feelings on most of these food related trends (I roll my eyes at all of them), I find myself intrigued. Mostly the ability to then reintroduce types of foods one at a time and see their effect on your body. With some digestive health issues running in my family, it would be nice to know if certain foods play a role in that or not.
            "You don't need money to dress better than you do" - Salvatore Romano

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              #7
              I was also intrigued by the post. I agree that losing whole grains, dairy, and legumes would be the biggest hit to my usual eating style.

              Breakfast is the meal that I have the hardest time coming up with suitable, quick replacements for. Yes, i could fry or scramble eggs, but I usually don't light the stove in the bleary hours.

              I suppose you could just eat a handful of nuts and fruit and call it a day...

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                #8
                I'm doing something similar to the Whole30 as a 6 week challenge via my gym. There are some variations in the program I'm following, but it's very similar. I'm on day 5 and so far, so good. I don't really get cravings for sweets or bread most of the time, so cutting that stuff out isn't too big a burden for me. What's been rougher than I expected is cutting out dairy, which I've never done before, even when I've experimented with very low carb diets.

                One positive benefit that I've noticed is that I haven't felt a nagging elbow tendonitis (golfer's elbow - though I've never golfed) that has bugged me for years. It usually isn't very bad, but it's always present at some low level at least. I can help it by making sure I warm up my shoulders and elbows well before working out. Even then I definitely feel it after pull ups or (especially) chin ups, and on some days it's there with no apparent cause or connection. But I haven't felt it a bit over the last five days and I've done plenty of the exercises that I can rely on to aggravate it. It could be unconnected to the diet - part of the challenge is a daily focus on stretching and mobility work - but a lot of what I've cut out is supposed to promote inflammation, so I'm guessing the dietary changes are contributing at least somewhat.

                In any event, I'm pretty pleased five days in. Good luck to anyone else hopping on board the diet train. If you run across any particularly delicious recipes, let us know.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kittiwake30 View Post
                  My wife is ultra-fit whereas I am active, but a chainsmoking butterball...
                  You're doing it right!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shomas View Post
                    I'm doing something similar to the Whole30 as a 6 week challenge via my gym. There are some variations in the program I'm following, but it's very similar. I'm on day 5 and so far, so good. I don't really get cravings for sweets or bread most of the time, so cutting that stuff out isn't too big a burden for me. What's been rougher than I expected is cutting out dairy, which I've never done before, even when I've experimented with very low carb diets.

                    One positive benefit that I've noticed is that I haven't felt a nagging elbow tendonitis (golfer's elbow - though I've never golfed) that has bugged me for years. It usually isn't very bad, but it's always present at some low level at least. I can help it by making sure I warm up my shoulders and elbows well before working out. Even then I definitely feel it after pull ups or (especially) chin ups, and on some days it's there with no apparent cause or connection. But I haven't felt it a bit over the last five days and I've done plenty of the exercises that I can rely on to aggravate it. It could be unconnected to the diet - part of the challenge is a daily focus on stretching and mobility work - but a lot of what I've cut out is supposed to promote inflammation, so I'm guessing the dietary changes are contributing at least somewhat.

                    In any event, I'm pretty pleased five days in. Good luck to anyone else hopping on board the diet train. If you run across any particularly delicious recipes, let us know.
                    This inflammation aspect is what caught my attention. I eat pretty healthy already so something like the Whole30 would not take a lot to change other than coffee after food. I may take out some foods to see if things go away and add them back if not but I am not doing 30 days of cutting a whole lot out.

                    Paleo confuses me due to some of the restrictions and then some items they allow.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pratyk View Post
                      I can't buy into a program which advocates the elimination of legumes or dairy - that's losing out on good, cheap sources of protein.

                      I'd rather go the route of Lyle McDonald's programs or Intermittent fasting instead buying into the whole 30 gospel.
                      Totally understandable. And I wouldn't do a long term program that eliminates all dairy and legumes. But for me 30 days is worth a try.

                      Someone else commented that cutting all carbs is foolish, and I agree with that for your overall diet, but for 30 days it's doable. The idea is to replace those calories by adding more meat and veggies not being on a low calorie diet. I am not a fan of the paleo diet for a number of reasons and I'm not looking to do this long term because I LOVE bread and anything so restrictive will not work long term.

                      For me this is more about giving myself restrictions to pay more attention to what I eat overall for a short period of time and use that 30 days to reboot my eating habits. I did this similarly several years back when I went vegan for one month. I had no interest in pursing that life style, though I know many who have and are happy with it. My goal instead was to force myself to take away the "easy" food options. Coming home late from work, exhausted and that Chinese place on the corner is might convenient. It was a great way to force myself to consider my options and pick something healthier. And after a month when I went back to a more normal diet without restrictions I was more selective and more aware of what I wanted to put in my body. I think it's also helpful to accomplish the challenge, doing something difficult can be good for the psyche.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by JBarwick View Post
                        This inflammation aspect is what caught my attention. I eat pretty healthy already so something like the Whole30 would not take a lot to change other than coffee after food. I may take out some foods to see if things go away and add them back if not but I am not doing 30 days of cutting a whole lot out.

                        Paleo confuses me due to some of the restrictions and then some items they allow.
                        Don't overthink the doctrine. It's not all that confusing and fairly simple to follow, if not a bit of a hassle to adhere to just because I feel that food prep takes significantly longer in my opinion...Stay away from processed foods, no grains, no dairy. Eat greens/fruits/meats/berries/nuts. Stick with those general guidelines and that's all you really need to know.

                        Originally posted by Brent k View Post
                        Cutting carbs out completely is a foolish move for many reasons. We need healthy carbs, not donuts and a loaf of white bread, but healthy carbs to function. Cutting carbs completely get you to lose weight but drastic calorie cutting leads to your metabolism shutting down.
                        Cutting carbs and calorie reduction are two separate things. I've followed both the paleo doctrine and the keto doctrine and saw significant decreases in BF % while maintaining muscle mass and strength. Concerning low carb diets, the ketogenic doctrine saw me at about 5% total calorie intake being carbs, the rest being healthy fats and proteins (I went with a 60/35 ratio), and those carbs came primarily from vegetables. Not only that, when I went in for a physical while on the keto doctrine, my blood work and labs came back healthier than I'd ever been on any other dietary doctrine. Additionally, while the initial "break-in" period was a bit rough (you'll feel lethargic as your body gets used to burning fat and fat stores as energy), by week 3 or 4 it was more than manageable. To put it in perspective, I dropped from about 14% BF to around 8-9% BF in around 6-7 weeks with minimal lean mass loss (or closer to none, since I believe I actually got stronger during that period).

                        The only reason I stopped either doctrine was that I got lazy (food prep takes too long), and while they're great for cutting fat and completely manageable for maintaining strength, my goals were to get larger and stronger and a Seefood diet is more conducive to gaining mass and strength quickly. Oh, and I like the taste of carbs and bread and stuff.

                        Btw, legumes promote inflammation and estrogen production. Not exactly what I'm looking for when it comes to my diet. I still religiously stay away from soy.

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                          #13
                          I've also lost the most body fat doing a combination of intermittent fasting and targeted ketogenic diet. Lots of steak, fish, and chicken, with potatoes and other starches post workout. I also depended on either psyllium husk or Quest Nutrition bars for fiber. I plan on doing it again before spring rolls around as I am planning on going on vacation when the weather warms up and business improves.

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                            #14
                            I am doing a whole 30 right now. I typically eat pretty healthy so the only changes I'm making are cutting dairy, legumes and rice/quinoa for the 30 days until I can add them back in. My fiancé did it earlier this year and she had some acne and muscular issues clear up. I'm just hoping it will act as a cleanse for me.

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                              #15
                              I really enjoyed the post as well. I don't know if I can do anything that drastic as I try to consume my body weight in protein every day. I have been monitoring my intake of carbs to protein to fat ratio more recently lately as I continue my work out gains from the latter half of 2014 into 2015 and hope to continue to eat better and exercise with intensity. I've dropped roughly 30 pounds from my peak weight high a few year ago. Lately it's more about weight training and just focusing more on diet than trying to cut out completely certain items.

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